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TI CHROMAG DUALLY!

Stuff we saw at Crankworx

Words Pete Roggeman
Photos Deniz Merdano
Date Aug 11, 2022
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Chromag Darco Titanium Dually

Look what we saw hanging around at the SRAM booth. Can't say anything because we don't know anything, but we sure do have opinions. It shouldn't be a surprise that Chromag is rolling out a short travel dually - they hinted at it in this interview, and had already released the Minor Threat for the juniors, now it's the big kids' turn. But this thing...The Ti is beautiful, but so is the silhouette. Geo looks right on point for Chromag.

Rocky Mountain Apparel

This one's not a collab - Rocky Mountain Bicycles just rolled out a good-looking, thoughtful lineup of men's and women's apparel. Several unique features include a clever bib short design for women, a rear pocket on shorts that was inspired by running belts (flexible capacity using stretch mesh, capable of carrying things as varied as phones and jackets), and Recco chips inside shorts and jerseys. We'll have more to say after we've tried them all out. More details here.

Maxxis DH Park Spec Tires (and new Forekaster)

Maxxis has got a new 'DH Park Spec' Minion they were showing in 27.5 and 29 x 2.40. It's built with a DH casing, wire bead, and Dual Compound tread and is going to retail at 80 USD / 108 CAD. Rumours of other popular treads coming to life in DH Park Spec were not addressed.

They also had the new Forekaster on display. We'll have a test set rolling soon. More info on the new Maxxis Forekaster here.

Lacy / Kona

Kona's booth is always fun. They have BINGO and ice cream and big smiles. It's basically like a super successful 6-year-old's birthday party with tequila and cussin'. This is Lacy and we think she's awesome, like Kona people tend to be. Also, Miranda Miller will be around signing autographs. Ask her about her new film project.

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THCrank Brothers

Once you see it.

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thaaad
thaaad
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+20 4Runner1 Pete Roggeman fartymarty shapethings Timer Émanuel Valex DancingWithMyself finbarr hotlapz Spencer Nelson Mammal mrbrett Metacomet WalrusRider JT NewGuy Zero-cool okiecalvin capnron mike

That Chromag though... wow

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mrbrett
mrbrett
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+2 hardtailhersh Andy Eunson

If there's an aluminum version, made overseas, I will order that day.

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andy-eunson
Andy Eunson
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

I’ve seen a not titanium version in the wild. I think it was steel front aluminum rear. It’s coming.

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Captain-Snappy
Merwinn
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

Chromag... alu frames? Sacrilegious.

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xy9ine
Perry Schebel
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 Pete Roggeman

Ugh, that's sweet, hey?

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Konda
Konda
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 kcy4130

Very little rear tyre clearance with a 2.4" from the looks of the 3rd photo though...

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Onawalk
Onawalk
1 month, 3 weeks ago
-3 Joseph Crabtree Kenny hardtailhersh

Dollars to doughnuts that it’s a rear designed for 275, with a 29 stuffed in there

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pete@nsmb.com
Pete Roggeman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+5 dolface Andy Eunson hardtailhersh Cooper Quinn capnron

You're gonna owe people a lot of dollars. Or doughnuts.

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Onawalk
Onawalk
1 month, 3 weeks ago
-1 hardtailhersh

You….you might not understand the phrase fully.

Can’t wait to find out, 

There’s a real good chance you know more than me on this, so I’m already a bit disappointed.

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pete@nsmb.com
Pete Roggeman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

I know what it means, and I'm taking it a bit further ;)

cam@nsmb.com
Cam McRae
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+8 Pete Roggeman Timer Émanuel Valex trumpstinyhands Metacomet Lu Kz Zero-cool Troy

Those Rocky Jerseys are very, “live long and prosper,” for better or worse.

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DanL
DanL
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+6 firevsh2o Timer Andrew Major Andy Eunson BarryW Zero-cool

Haha, who's going to wear the red shirt on the ride....

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TristanC
TristanC
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 BarryW

I have a shop sample Patagucci jersey and it's 100% Kirk.

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ThadTheRad
Jake Smith
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+6 Velocipedestrian Pete Roggeman GB Deniz Merdano tashi Troy

I've used this crankbrothers tool for like 7 years now, sometimes even under the influence of THC, and never noticed this.

This is the kind of bombshell mountain bike content I come here for.

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cheapondirt
cheapondirt
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+2 mrbrett kcy4130

SRAM: "With a simple upgrade to AXS, any old externally routed bike could look just like... that!"

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velocipedestrian
Velocipedestrian
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+4 Pete Roggeman Martin cheapondirt dolface

There was a fast reaction change on my couch, from; Yay, external! To Boo, trunnion!

Do the saucepans mean you're auditioning for the bib review?

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WalrusRider
WalrusRider
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 Kenny

At least it's not a clevis yoke. Why are people so against trunnion?

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BadNudes
BadNudes
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 Andrew Major

Traditional eyelets handle a bit of misalignment better, focusing the wear on the easily replaceable bushing. In comparison trunnion mounting has a tendency to chew up bearings and shock shafts quicker.

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dolface
dolface
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

Ugh, trunnion. Now I am sad :(

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martin
Martin
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

Most people won't care, but details like that keep my wallet safe!

The bike is gorgeous and looks like the geo is dialed though.

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mammal
Mammal
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+2 Metacomet Reuben.Sandwich

A Ti Chromag 160/150 bike would be the cat's ass.

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LAT
LAT
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

cat’s arse in british is the exact opposite of the dogs bollocks. 

that chromag is the dogs bollocks.

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pete@nsmb.com
Pete Roggeman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 LAT

That's funny - over here I've also always known the cat's ass to mean something great. We don't hear the dog's bollocks except from our British friends. But I think we can all agree on the bee's knees being the oldest-fashioned of the three.

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velocipedestrian
Velocipedestrian
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

Cats pyjamas might be the phrase you wanted.

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blaklabl
blaklabl
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+2 dolface Pete Roggeman

I’m in for the Ti version as soon as it’s released.  Let’s gooooo

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DBone57
DBone57
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 Pete Roggeman

The Forekaster tread shot is the old version.

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denomerdano
Deniz Merdano
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

Fixed!

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mikeynets
mikeynets
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 Pete Roggeman

I know there's not a lot of love for trunnion mounts, but I have no complaints with it on my Spitfire. Just curious: is there a lot of evidence it leads to more rapid shock/bearing/bushing wear than traditional mount?

Also, any idea if it's an iterative thing similar to press fit BB — not so good at first, but progressively gotten better?

But a ti Chromag dually??!! I'm interested.

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JVP
JVP
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+5 Velocipedestrian Timer mikeynets dolface Tremeer023

I think it's a flex + alignment thing. If you've got a frame that doesn't side load the shock, and the alignment is bang-on, they're fine. The trunnion bearings on my Carbon Patrol last forever with an annual repack.

But get a bit of twisting or alignment that binds even a little bit, and you're in for some frustration. My shop/shock buddies have seen quite a few prematurely worn trunnion shocks and destroyed bearings. 

Basically there's a lot less margin for alignment error or weird loads with trunnion vs the standard mounts.

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mrbrett
mrbrett
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

I changed trunnion bearings on the Process I was riding like I changed my underwear. Unless brand new, I literally can't recall a time I inspected those bearings and found them smooth. They're tiny!

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mammal
Mammal
1 month, 3 weeks ago
-1 Joseph Crabtree

The increased shock wear issue is more prevalent on bikes that use a yoke to drive the shock (increased effective shock length = more leverage), and on frames that aren't aligned well. Banshees are usually on the better end of frame alignment, from what I've heard, so that could contribute to your better experience. That said, a buddy of mine has a V2 Prime that's pretty bad in that regard, that misalignment already contributes to premature shock wear, and it's not even a trunnion bike (would be far worse with trunnion). With traditional bushing pivots in the shock, there's a bit more side-side play in that interface, giving more movement for the shock to self-align.

That's aside from the fact that tiny bearings don't usually have a very good lifespan, especially if they are low rotational pivots like a shock mount. And you really don't want those little bearings to seize up, because that makes the shock wear problem MUCH worse.

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cxfahrer
cxfahrer
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Does that "park spec" mean, those Minion versions with Dual Compound and DH folding casing are being replaced and not available any more? I found it already near impossible to find them in any shop in EU.

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letsgethurt
letsgethurt
1 month, 3 weeks ago
+1 cheapondirt

The $80 usd price tag seems a bit ridiculous for a wire bead hard compound DH tire but maxxis gonna maxxis i guess! Michelin DH34 or Schwalbe Big Betty are literally the same tire and they've been available in similar bike park version for €20-30 in EU shops

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cheapondirt
cheapondirt
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

DH34 BP is $60 CAD in Canadian shops, which is really good.

It however, has a slightly lighter casing, seeps Stans through the sidewalls, and the compound is less grippy but faster wearing than Maxxis DC - chunking off the braking edges as if the rubber is brittle.

If I was riding a lot of park, I'd be willing to pay a little more for the Maxxis, especially if on sale. Full MSRP stings a little but it's still a better value than other Maxxis DH tires when you factor in lifespan. Edit: I reread and it's a new compound, not DC, making my comparison irrelevant.

I haven't personally tried Schwalbe BP because it's too heavy for my taste, but for park use, and comparing MSRPs directly, I suspect it to be the best value of the three.

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pete@nsmb.com
Pete Roggeman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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No idea but I don't think so. If anything this new one represents a new SKU category, I don't have the sense it's an evolution if a current model.

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SomeBikeGuy
SomeBikeGuy
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

I need that Chromag bike, so hopefully it isn't just a tease like that time I saw Chromag clipless pedals.

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sanesh-iyer
Sanesh Iyer
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

That Chromag is already old news, they sold out the first steel production run already! so jealous of the lucky owners....

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jonathan_fo
Jonathan Fournier
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

Hey Sanesh!

How is this so? There was a local pre-sale?

Are you from Whistler?

Still that's a bit sad :(

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pete@nsmb.com
Pete Roggeman
1 month, 2 weeks ago
+1 Sanesh Iyer

Chromag is known around the world, but are still first and foremost a very local Whistler brand and it's a tight community. Friends of Chromag help inspire and test their products, and protos of their dually have been in use in Whistler for years. With their hardtails, they usually do a small batch of locally-built frames first, and follow it up shortly thereafter with a larger batch of frames made in TW. Don't know if that's the case here, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened the same way.

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jonathan_fo
Jonathan Fournier
1 month, 2 weeks ago
+1 dolface

Hi Pete,

Yeah, that would make total sense. Hopefully we see this going live for sale soon :)

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sanesh-iyer
Sanesh Iyer
1 month, 2 weeks ago
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I think that's quite common for most brands. I've certainly seen it in North Vancouver, Quebec, and even the brief time I was in Switzerland it's apparent. It makes a lot of sense to gather data and stoke out the community. Anywhere where there a company has a head office, you'll see bikes months before wider launch.

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jt
JT
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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At this point in life I recognize the instant I feel the need to increase the debt on one of my credit cards I am absolutely not ready to do so from a financial well being sense. That Chromag makes one helluva case for ignoring that voice (and the look that would be sure to come from my spouse when the frame showed up). Now, if it comes out in a steel flavor....

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fartymarty
fartymarty
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

According to the PB article it will be coming out in steel.  Better start earning those brownie points now...

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jt
JT
1 month, 3 weeks ago
0

Fingers crossed it'll be less than the Reeb SST...

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creakierthanyourbb
creakierthanyourbb
5 days, 21 hours ago
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Hi Pete, did you definitely see the Maxxis bike park spec in 27.5? I've only found them available in 29, and no mention of 27.5 on their website, either.

Cheers

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