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I admit I don't understand the hierarchy of rear shocks and their intended applications very well since companies seem to be over-shocking more often (e.g. the '20 Optic with a ST Super Deluxe; cool... but why?), but in all honesty, what is concerning with the DPX2 in this case? Is the X2's (travel, volume, adjustability, blah, blah) simply more appropriate on the Process X given its rear travel, partnered fork and racing intent? What could be the issue(s) with the DPX2 in this instance?

- Confused

Hopefully the rumours of a GX-level AXS will be true... not that I'll be upgrading any time soon from cables.

Hopefully the rumours of a GX-level AXS will be true... not that I'll be upgrading any time soon from cables.

MOAR PLAID!

Those pants look fun... based on the opening photo.

Faster up for sure and down is the same speed, IMO. I have a ecommuter bike and it shreds almost 15 mins off my UBC to NVan commute time largely on the hills and in max assist mode.

Mr. Major, what's that 20" (?) bike being towed by your Walt? I'm on the lookout for something new for my 6 yo before Spring hits.

"I can always walk out if I break my elbow" LOL!

A friend dislocated her elbow on a slow speed OTB and was in enough shock afterwards she could barely stand, let alone safely walk down the trail supported by two others. BTW, she's an XC machine and no wuss.

Anyone who assumes they can "just walk out", has a questionable knowledge of reality, first aid and what the body goes through after a serious enough accident.

True, however it cannot access or fit in the the majority of trails that an ebike can.

No need to conflate an ebike and a moto as magically being the same thing. Based on that oversimplified logic an electric wheel chair is now an ATV.

Posted by: D_C_

Posted by: Stuminator

Just saw a woman hit the walk button with her bare hand at an intersection. Why not use the elbow or sleeve?

Gross!

Some people just might be acting on reflex if they're not 'in the momment'... or just don't care.

Posted by: FLATCH

Not to highjack things here, but has anyone noticed how much more dog shit is on the trails? Fuck me.

Never mind covid, I need a full face shield to ride the Woodlot these days.

OMIGOD, yes! Pick up your dog's crap, ya lazy buncha arses!

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: oldmanbuilder

i guess the need to save 10-15 mins on the climb is the same need that drives people to e-bikes.  all about the descent.

People are actually saying the opposite, they're complaining that it's been made easier and isn't enough of a challenge anymore.

Boring? If people find it boring, just do it faster.

Posted by: craw

Alloy is only marginally heavier given how much tougher they are at half the price. Turbines are very tough and Atlas even tougher. Put those little boots on then smash away.

THIS ^

Posted by: rhw

Ironically, because so many e-bike haters can't resist reading this e-bike post and responding to it, this post is now "trending" on the home page :-)

If truer words were ever typed...

Ho-weee! Shit be flying now, Brock. I'm guessing Cam's gonna call you on that one, brah.

WADR Tashi, then why are you reading and responding to a post on e-MTBs?

Don't waste time expecting others to change their behaviour, when controlling one's own actions and/or reactions are the only realistic options.

Posted by: ac

Do people mod these things with a throttle? If I somehow ended up with one of these everything else would get put on hold until I figured out how to add a secret button to the bars.

A traditional throttle requires a variable degree of movement. You can't effectively have a tiny depressable "secret button" that acts just like a full sized 'wrist' throttle because the human finger does not have the reliable capability required for extra fine movement. And then add in moving at speed over rough terrain? #ideasthatshoulddieonthetable

Posted by: rnayel

I used to not care and I’m still sort of indifferent. However, my buddy broke both of his legs in a snowboard accident that had the first responders questioning whether he will ever walk again.  Two years later he has a Rocky Poweplay and it’s entirely changed him by giving him access to the outdoors.  He rides it in Squamish, on Fromme and in whistler and honestly, it’s cured much of his depression and it’s helped him with his rehab as he’s able to get motion out of the knees with reduced load.  Maybe eMTBs aren’t so bad.

I'm all for that. IMO, more riders ((traditional and 'e') mean more support for MTB trails in general. Motos with

Posted by: Ddean

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: fartymarty

Logically ebikes must cause more trail wear as you can cover twice the distance in the same time as a non ebikes. Hence twice the trail wear.

no - that's not correct nor logical. yes, ebikes have the potential to cause more trail wear but it doesn't mean they necessarily will and there is no real support for the notion that ebikes will cause twice the trail wear as a pedal bike. we could also just as easily say that in order to limit or reduce trail wear we won't allow any more new riders into the sport, for two riders will cause twice as much wear as one. we could also say that people can only ride two days per week, for if they ride four days per week they will cause twice the trail wear.

I think what he means is that assuming that they cause no more wear per equal distance as a pedal bike, that because you're going twice as far there is in total twice the wear on the trails - same amount of wear on any specific trail but more wear overall due to distance travelled. Makes sense to me, although assuming equal wear per foot travelled is a generous assumption. More power should equal more wear.

First, there is an assumption being made that the e-bike IS actually going twice as far. It may be able to ascend more quickly than the average non ebike, but that doesn't necessarily mean the ebike is going any farther during a given ride.

Second, trail wear is heavily dependant by riding technique and behaviour. I have seen more than enough riders lock up their rear brake to steer through a fresh layer loam and no motor was involved.  IMO, this is not dependent on the choice of bike being used but rather the operator. 

Third, the idea of licensing ebikes, let alone non e-bikes, will never happen because it's already been tried. Some states and provinces required bikes to have plates wa-a-a-y back but was deemed largely unenforceable, and a waste of resources. I think we can all agree that ICBC and/or the police have much higher priorities than verifying that ebike owners haven't tampered with their software and sensors. 

I have no plans to buy an e-MTB, but a commuter bike for my 30 km commute... hmmm.