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Garmin Edge MTB

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It's not very often that we are invited to media camps that require only a short flight and no passport. But when Garmin reached out and invited me to attend an event being hosted by Garmin Canada, it meant a 60-minute flight to Calgary and a 35-minute Uber to Cochrane, Alberta - a sawmill town about 30 minutes due west of Calgary, and the home of Garmin Canada. Cursory research taught me that it began as Dynastream Innovations in 1998, and that their first product was a sensor that helped monitor a runner's distance and speed. Their first client? Nike. They quickly rose to prominence in a rapidly growing field, and Garmin went from being a client to acquiring Dynastream in 2006, which is when it became Garmin Canada. Their fast growth has continued; a few years ago, they added another floor to the top of the building in order to open up space for about a hundred more engineers, bringing the number of gearheads in the Canadian office to somewhere between two and three hundred. Today, Garmin Canada works on products for Garmin's fitness and outdoor categories, including Edge computers, smartwatches (like the Forerunner and Fenix lines) notably including development of the wrist sensors that measure things like heart rate and blood oxygenation, and the Varia line of lights and cameras that use radar to help keep riders safer on the road.

In short, they're working on lots of really cool, cutting edge shit in Cochrane. And I had an idea we'd get a peek inside the office, and they told us to pack riding gear as we'd be spending a few days out at the Canmore Nordic Centre, where they have a fairly extensive trail network, and were going to be hosting a Canada Cup. But I had no idea what they were bringing media in to see.

Turns out, quite a bit.

Garmin Edge MTB 5

Garmin Edge MTB box contents.

More or less since 2019, I've worn a Garmin Fenix on my wrist, and for most of what I need, it's the one for me. It's got enough smartwatch features to help keep my phone out of my hands at least some of the time, but its primary value to me is for tracking rides and monitoring health metrics like sleep and body battery; those latter two have helped me learn how to rest and recover better and, when I'm behaving, drink less alcohol, because man does that ever crush your body's ability to do work and recover from efforts.

Garmin computers, though, are something I used for the first time in 2019,

especially in 2021 for BC Bike Race, and sporadically in the years since. They offer tons of useful functions, but the Fenix on my wrist took care of a lot of them, and when I needed help with navigation, I always relied on my phone unless I had a route pre-loaded, which is not how I normally plan a ride, at least at home. For races like BCBR, though, long rides in unfamiliar territory, or when I'm not wearing a Garmin watch (more about watches in a later article) it's a fairly easy process to select a route and get it onto your Edge computer, which will then keep you from straying from your plan, but also deliver handy information like distance to the end, grade and length of climbs, etc. Again, not stuff I need daily, but I have used Edge computers a fair bit off and on since then, primarily the Edge 530 and 840 Solar.

Garmin Edge MTB

Edge is the family name for Garmin's computers, and higher numbers denote more features and larger screens. The newest member of the family, though - the Garmin Edge MTB - has no number. It is closest in size and features to an Edge 540, though it is a bit smaller that that model. But unlike other Edge computers, or any other Garmin product for that matter, Edge MTB is Garmin's first MTB-specific product. Here are the features that make that distinction notable:

Durable design

All seven buttons are overmolded to help keep out water, dust, and dirt. And in a first for a Garmin, a scratch-resistant Gorilla Glass lens will resist scratches far better than...whatever they were using before.

There's a new top tube mount included (with bases that will fit a traditional, round profile tube, or a flatter one that'll work with modern carbon top tube shapes) that you can bolt to an accessory mount or attach using an included ski strap, as well as the more traditional bar mount.

Built-in maps

Trailforks comes pre-loaded, which feels like both a no-brainer and a great addition. There's a feature called the Trendline Popularity Routing that helps you find routes most traveled by other Garmin cyclists. Preloaded Garmin TopoActive maps let you navigate paved and unpaved pathways, streets, etc. You can also access maps and activity profiles for other types of riding like road, gravel, etc. This is a lot of nice versatility that I expect we'll see in all of Garmin's next gen of computers but for now, the Edge MTB offers the most mapping utility for multi-disciplinary users that are also mountain bikers.

Garmin Edge MTB Map Menu 2

Trailforks built-in means the Garmin Edge MTB is a great help in unfamiliar areas. Photo: Garmin.

Enduro and Downhill Ride Profiles

Enduro ride mode splits your rides into climb and descent mode (you select manually as you ride) to help you track laps or, if you're racing, stages (provided you logically classify transfer stages as climbs and race stages as descents). Downhill mode automatically turns tracking off during the shuttle or chairlift ride back up so your decending stats aren't affected (the same way Garmin watches work in downhill ski mode).

Multi-band GPS with 5 Hz GPS recording

The default fidelity for Garmin's computers is 1 Hz (1 reading per second) but when in descending mode, Edge MTB automatically kicks into 5 Hz mode. This will let you see trail lines in greater detail and improve accuracy, but also drains your battery faster and creates larger GPX files - both worthwhile tradeoffs given some of the user profiles for this computer.

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The purple triangle in the top right indicates Edge MTB is in 5 Hz mode.

Timing gates

This was the feature that caused me to really perk up about this new computer. Just like it sounds, this lets you set timing gates along a course to track split times during a race or ride and, very cool bonus, also see in real-time if those times are ahead or behind previous splits. I've already set a course on the loop I ride most close to home, and this will be a great way to inject a little fun into those rides, but there are a ton of other uses: training for racers (obviously), racing against friends (they'll need their own Edge MTB, though), or comparing how fast your regular rear tire is against the new one you're testing out.

It's easy to set up a course, your computer can house many at a time (Edge MTB has 32 GB of internal memory) and the real-time splits are fun to race against.

Forksight mode

View names of trails up ahead, elevation profiles, distance back to start, trail difficulty, primary direction of travel and more.

MTB dynamics

Track mountain bike metrics like jump count and distance, hang time, and Garmin's two proprietary metrics: Grit and Flow. Honestly, these don't resonate or provide much utility in my opinion, although some may find value in tracking number of jumps or hang time (and with 5 Hz mode it'll be a lot more accurate than it used to be).

We spent two days getting acquainted with the Edge MTB on the trails of Canmore, as well as a few other products (coming soon). The staff also took us for a tour of the testing lab at Garmin Canada, which was an eye-opener. Some of the things we saw, like 5(+)axis CNC machines, were fairly typical of a bike co. machine shop (at least one that creates its own prototypes or components); however, Garmin has added variables to contend with: water, dust, vibration, RF interference, and on and on.

Seeing some of this testing in action was interesting. Did you know (I sure didn't) that in order to install a vibration table in a lab, it has to be attached to an entirely different foundation than the rest of the building? Otherwise, everyone in the building would be subjected to non-stop shaking (and it likely also helps them isolate vibrations just to the test table). So, that was one thing that had to be planned/accounted for before they built their current facility.

Sticking with the vibration theme, one tidbit stood out, which is that Garmin makes products for bike and moto applications. In order to ensure they test for things like vibration in true real world applications, they'll mount measurement devices and go use them on the specific products they'll be used on. Example: a moto display would be mounted to a Honda Goldwing AND a Harley SG Ultra, for example, so that the different vibration maps can be incorporated into their test protocols. They cover the bases, and know how to do so because the staff are also enthusiasts.

Garmin Canada Test Lab 8

The bike room at Garmin Canada looks like bike rooms at a lot of medium to large bike companies. Garmin Canada specializes in fitness and outdoor products, and their employees certainly walk the walk.

I could go on forever about the great people we met at Garmin (from the Canadian and Kansas offices) and other things we saw, but that's a story for another day. I will say this: Ross Stirling, the director of engineering at Garmin Canada, is always looking for good people, specifically engineers, and Cochrane (or nearby Calgary or Canmore) would be pretty great places to live. If you're reading this and thinking Garmin Canada might be of interest, you should reach out - they might want to hear from you.

Wrapping up on the Edge MTB, I'll take a deeper dive into using Garmin computers vs watches in the future - it's a big subject. If you think the Edge MTB might be of interest, just know there's a LOT more I haven't covered in terms of features - things that other computers in the Edge lineup also provide - and you can learn about all of them here. It's a training aid, a navigational tool (though not as geared to nav as some of their other computers) and will be useful for racers or anyone who already has an HR monitor that is compatible. You can use it as a head unit to track data like speed and range, and battery on your e-bike; it'll also communicate with your SRAM AXS or Shimano Di2 unit to track what gear you're in and all kinds of other stuff. Garmin COACH will help you train for specific events. The list goes on and on. So far, it's working great, but inevitable future updates and a season's wear will be better indicators of its suitability. Upon initial release, though, I can recommend the Edge MTB for riders looking for solid data collection, training assistance, and light navigation in a robust little package that will live up to the abuses of riding in all weather and conditions.

Garmin Edge MTB - 399 USD / 579 CAD

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andy-eunson
+3 Pete Roggeman lkubica Gavin Francis

About time a top tube mount like this was released. I prefer that type of mount to a bar mount. Less likely to be damaged or broken off. That said, I did try an aftermarket top tube mount that stuck on with peel and stick adhesive. It broke off pretty easily. As did the replacement and the one on my second bike. I use a Fenix now which gives me all I want. And works for skiing and hiking too.

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info@thehafclip.com
+1 BewaretheKragle

Have you tried the Enduro mount by 76Projects? It is awesome. The thing about this Garmin mount is it BULCKY. Sits too high. If the bars twist it will surely get knocked. They need to make somethi g much slimmer

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pete@nsmb.com
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It's bulky but on a few bikes I've had no clearance issues with the bars. That 76project mount looks fine but I don't love having it stuck permanently to the top tube and you'd need multiples to swap across bikes whereas the Garmin is an easy switch.

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BewaretheKragle
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+1 to the Project 76 mount over this Garmin mount. DC rainmaker has a pretty through review on this unit and both the top mount and in particular the strap come up pretty lacking.

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pete@nsmb.com
+2 DancingWithMyself Tjaard Breeuwer

I was riding right DC Ray when he broke it. He spazzed out and smoked it with his knee, and it wasn't this computer he snagged but a massive Edge 1040 which isn't intended to be top tube mounted. I'm a fan of his work but that was not a fair assessment.

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Tjaardbreeuwer
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Good to know

cooperquinn
+1 DancingWithMyself

Yep, i use the 76projects mount on a couple bikes and have had no issues. It's a quarter-turn mount, so would work for any Garmin product. 

https://nsmb.com/articles/hammerhead-karoo-2/

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andy-eunson
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Yes that’s the ones I had. All broke off. I think one was struck with my knee, another when I stumbled a bit getting off the bike in a hurry and kicked it. The third was an unknown cause. Too brittle and no give. I note that this new Garmin has a replaceable mount in the event of damage. That is a great feature. I’ve broken those tabs off once on a 510?  I did repair that mount with an aftermarket kit though. It’s important that a mount for off road have some give to it for the inevitable accidents.

I’ve also used the regular Garmin bar mount on the top tube both at the front and rear using a bunch of the o rings to loop around the top tube. It works but it’s a bit janky.

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cooperquinn
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I've had no issues with the two mounts I have, but could be a different adhesive or something, who knows. 

That said, you definitely want the mount to fail before the tabs on your computer - they're a designed weak point on garmins quarter turn mounts (and all other computer mounts, really) for a reason. I've also broken tabs off the back, it was warrantied but still annoying. It's why the insert is replaceable on many designs - hard to do when you're 3d printing them like 76Projects though. 

Garmin's continued use (this product excepted) of the rubber bands is interesting. It's a somewhat clunky feeling solution, but it's also super light weight, simple, and very universal.

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andy-eunson
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Could be that mine were earlier models. Maybe a different material now. Certainly accidental kicking isn’t really the products fault but mine. Same with the knee. The third one split along the base lengthwise but I don’t remember anything that would have caused that. No biggie though. No one died.

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AdeMiller
+1 Tjaard Breeuwer

You can actually use the existing mounts and bands to on the top tube. I've done this on a couple of bikes, including a Megatower, which has a fat top tube, and it works just fine.

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pete@nsmb.com
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Yep, absolutely right, I've done it forever and never had an issue. It just doesn't feel slick and 'designed' but completely functional.

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finbarr
+2 rolly Jotegir

I’m going to issue my two constant complaints about Garmin that they could easily resolve with a software update:

1. They gate software features behind hardware models. There’s no reason that the timing gate feature couldn’t be a software update for older devices (like my Edge 530). The 5Hz mode, sure, maybe that requires new hardware. But we should get software updates. I’ve heard Karoo is way better for this. 

2. Navigation is so awful to set up. I should be able to set a destination on my phone and be able to have my Garmin take me there without going through 5 minutes of buggy syncing steps. Right now, my process is: set the destination in an app that exports to gpx-> send to Garmin connect -> send to device -> spend 5 minutes trying to make my edge sync to my phone -> find and start the course on my device after going through a terrible menu (and now the course is there until I manually delete it). Software can be better!

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pete@nsmb.com
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Actually we were told the timing gate feature did require certain hardware adjustments in order to make it work the way they wanted. The directional feature, necessary for it to register that you're traveling through a gate properly, had certain requirements as well as interference that can be caused by proximity to metal tube's on the bike. I'll send off a few questions to get a more detailed explanation. 

Ditto on the nav side. I can tell you that they do things very deliberately but that doesn't mean the software is perfect and I hear you - technical products like this have to be user friendly or it becomes frustrating.

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Jotegir
+2 Konrad BarryW

I don't buy that DH mode requires extra hardware.

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AdeMiller
+2 Jotegir BarryW

Me neither. There are many examples of Garmin doing this. My 520 is missing a lot of "new" features some of which seem like they could be added with a software update. Their business model is to sell you new units every few years, not give you free upgrades on old units.

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pete@nsmb.com
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I'm going to put it to them but, from the watch side, I dispute this. A Fenix 6 I wore for years got tons of updates, even after the 7 was released, and most functionality they added for the 7 also worked for the 6.

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Onawalk
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Has your 520 stopped working with the release of the 530, 540, or this Edge MTB?

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rolly
+1 finbarr

I love my Edge 830. But loading maps/routes were not easy at all ime. It was so clunky and tedious, that I don't do it all anymore. 

The other thing that drives me crazy about my Garmin is the training buddy function. I love the idea, but it doesn't match your previous time at a given spot. I want to know how I am doing relative to where I was the last time at that particular part of the trail.

Other than these two gripes, the Edge is a great piece of kit.

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Konda
+1 Andy Eunson

As nifty as some of these features may be, am I the only one who just wants something which will track my rides accurately, without all the other gimmicks?

I'm still running a Garmin Edge 25, though it has recently been proving to be less accurate than modern day phones.

I set it away at the start of the ride, toggle it to display the time and forget about everything else until the end of the ride.

A bare bones Tracker for a fraction of the cost of the above would be good. We don't all always need to have Sat Nav on on the bars, or a gimmicky "you got 0.25seconds of air!" alert.

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pete@nsmb.com
+1 Tjaard Breeuwer

I think you're like many riders, and no one's telling you that you do need all that stuff! It's great if your old hardware still serves your needs, testament to how well made it was in the first place.

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Konda
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It has served me well, but as I mentioned, the tracking is proving to be less accurate than say smart phones these days.

I'm not saying I'm not interested in a new GPS, but it seems that to get more accurate tracking (5hz) and say a longer run time, you're forced into getting all of the other things which also drives the price up.

This is something which is hardly unique to Garmin, it seems everyone is doing this these days (£31 to watch the world cup, because you can't have it without the football and all the other rubbish for example). So I guess this is a bit of an old man shouting at clouds post.

The cheapest garmin bike GPS is £170 that I can see after a quick search (Edge 130 plus), which is beyond what I'm willing to pay in order to slightly improve the accuracy over my Edge 25, or a smart phone which I already own. If a bare bones, accurate tracker with good battery life was available, in the region of ~£100 I'd be all over it. Literally just tracking, no heart rate monitor, maps, air times, power meters etc.

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info@thehafclip.com
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This! Exactly what I want as well. The only two things about the MTB version that I fine mildly intrigueing are the compatibility with SRAM Axs and the molded buttons. 130+ should be easily software ungrateful for AXS and it would perfect.

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Wapti
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how did you enjoy the nordic centre

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pete@nsmb.com
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It's great. Some fun trails and gorgeous scenery. There was a Canada Cup going on while we were there and my sea level lungs were wheezing at the prospect of XC racing at altitude.

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Andeh
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I use a 540 for all my rides because it gives me a lot of useful data at a glance without having to pull out my phone.  I'd probably be an upgrade candidate for the MTB version (slightly smaller, more durable, 5ghz)... but having to manually toggle climb/descents seems like a major miss to me, and enough to pass.  I know how bad I am at unlocking suspension (so never do it), and this is basically the same thing.

BTW, one of my favorite features of how Garmins integrate with other devices is the AXS stuff.  I like being able to glance down and see what gear I'm in before I start a downhill (I know I prefer 10th for most trails but 8 for some with sudden climbs), and it alerts me both when a battery drops into red *and when I finish my ride*, so I can immediately put the batteries on a charger.  They're also great for displaying ebike data like battery% and cadence for motors that don't have an LCD display but do support BT connections (works for Fazua, but not Bosch).

My favorite mount is the K-Edge steerer spacer style (available in both flat and raised to accommodate MTB stem shapes).

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pete@nsmb.com
+1 Andeh

It does detect downhills automatically and kick it into 5 Hz mode even if you forget, it just won't count it as a separate lap. So maybe not an issue for you after all?

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Andeh
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Good to know, the other stuff I read on release day didn't mention that.  I never toggle laps manually, but having higher frequency would be nice in the trees.

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cooperquinn
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That's my least-favorite k-edge mount!

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BewaretheKragle
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How does the Timing Gates feature work in the following scenarios

  • Multiple trails (2+) that you have placed timing gates on and start at the same location but after some distance (~50m) split. This is common in a trail centre/lift access.
  • Multiple trails (2+) that you have placed timing gates on that start at different locations but intersect and share a segment (~50m fire road) before splitting off.
  • 2 trails that you have placed timing gates on that start at different locations. You start on trail #1 and at the intersection with trail #2 you continue on trail #2?
  • In the scenario where you have multiple trails starting at the same location but splitting to a different end point do you need to stack start gates on top of an already marked starting point before you can move down the trail to create a timing gate?

I guess my general question is once you go through a start gate does the Garmin just count time between gates until it passed an end of trail beacon, regardless of the trail the timing beacon is on. Or is the Garming following a route and does not allow for splitting it merging with other premarked trail

> racing against friends (they'll need their own Edge MTB, though)

  • How does Garmin intend for this to work? Once timing gates are placed are they publicly shared? If everyone is placing their own timing gates how can times be compared
  • Does Garmin have any plans to create something similar to Strava where PRs are based on community agreed segments?
  • Can timing segments be compared against past rides to see PRs and deltas between splits.

Sorry for all the questions but the more I think about this feature the more it seems 1/8th baked. I appreciate you answering the ones you can and perhaps asking Garmin the ones you can't.

Cheers

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pete@nsmb.com
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Gates are points in space, only counted when you pass through them, so all your questions in section 1 above are pretty easily answered. The key is that you also set the direction you're traveling in, which does a lot to eradicate confusion for the unit.

For part 2, you can share GPX files, but I didn't get the idea they're trying to replicate Strave segments and do something public, but that doesn't mean someone can't post the files for others to use. Yes, you can compare against past rides, that's half the fun!

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DancingWithMyself
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I would be very interested in some testing of the accuracy of the timing gate feature, especially on shorter descents.  I've ridden with a Bad Elf GPS booster laying down tracks to generate a map of trails.  That thing is talking to numerous satellites, costs a few hundred dollars, and it's only job is accurate GPS.  It wasn't in the big mountains.  Multiple runs produced GPS tracks 30-40 yards (sorry, metric people) apart.  Can this Garmin unit actually produce accurate results?

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TerryP
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For watch users, what's the best solution people have found for the bike park/shuttle scenario of not wanting to count the ascents just the descents? An equivalent to the ski mode is the exact thing I'm thinking.

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