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Trek Rail Gen 4

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Before I introduce the Trek Rail 9.9 X0 AXS T-Type Gen 4 that we're tire-kicking today, let's do a quick recap. Several years ago, I long-term tested a Trek Rail 9.8 XT. It was the first Bosch-equipped e-bike I'd spent any time on, and my experience echoed what a lot of reviewers and customers had been saying: it was a reliable platform with great handling and plenty of performance. The Bosch unit was powerful, smooth, and efficient, the spec was bang on with a few minor gripes, and that bike is still being happily ridden today.

In the intervening years, a lot of related tech has been released. Bosch has rolled out a smart system which adds new software and tweaked power level modes, an app that includes loads of functionality as well as a lock and alarm, and OTA (over-the-air) updates. Trek has updated the geo of the Rail line and the frames themselves, enabling them to use Bosch's new remote and controller options. And SRAM released Transmission, which builds on UDH and Eagle AXS to create a family of components that delivers robust, durable shifting capable of standing up to the rough treatment eMTBs dish out. SRAM has also just released Powertrain, but that review is still in the future as Trek isn't one of its early buyers.

In short, in the two years since I reviewed the Trek Rail, the e-bike landscape has changed quite a bit, so this new Trek Rail presented an opportunity to check out some of those advances all at once.

This review was organized earlier this year, and I was most curious to see how SRAM's new Transmission would behave on an e-bike, since one of the big selling points they were touting was its robustness and the fact that it was designed to shift better while under load. I would have loved to have tested GX T-Type instead of X0, but Trek has yet to release a Rail spec'd with it, so X0 it is. I mention this because it meant I was a bit cornered into testing a $11,299 US Rail 9.9 if I wanted it to come with Transmission. The only Rail priced above this one is the $13,299 Rail 9.9 CXR Gen 4, so named for the special race edition Bosch CXR motor it comes with.

Trek Rail Gen 2, 3, and 4

Trek doesn't really go with annual model years for their bikes and colours, which can make their site a bit confusing at times (there are past model bikes still listed but out of stock). In the case of the Rail, what you get are Gen 2, 3, and 4 model designations which indicate what Bosch system tech the bike is running (Bosch hasn't updated the Performance Line CX motor since 2020). The Rail I tested a few years ago was a Gen 2 which means no smart system, and it had a monochromatic bar-mounted remote and display which was reasonably ergonomic and easy to use, if a bit exposed in the event of a crash. Gen 3 and 4 both employ Bosch's smart system, which includes app integration to their eBike Flow app, and are distinguished primarily by the remote and controller combinations. Gen 4, as tested, comes with a System Controller & display that is flush-mounted to the top tube, and a three-button mini remote on the bar, activated by the left hand. The top tube-mounted controller is your on/off for the system, indicates battery level and what ride mode you're in (colour-coded LEDs for easy reference while riding), and acts as the central nervous system, including your connection to the app via bluetooth. The mini remote has three buttons and simply controls ride mode (including walk mode). There is no display on the bike to indicate things like speed, remaining range, trip or total distance, etc. Those things can all be accessed through the app, for better or worse.

So let's dig into what I ended up with. Full spec is a little lower down.

Trek Rail 9.9 X0 AXS T-Type Gen 4 Key Features

The Rail 9.9 is a carbon-framed, 150mm travel eMTB aimed at trail/enduro riding. It comes with a 160mm fork (RockShox Zeb Ultimate in this case) but the frame is rated for 170mm if you're inclined (and I am). As with most of Trek's frames, the Rail is chock full of features: Trek's well-known ABP, a removable battery (that can also be locked in the frame), geo adjust via Mino Link, Knock Block, and frame protection. Spec across the board is without compromise: RockShox Super Deluxe Thru Shaft shock and Zeb Ultimate fork (both w/ AirWiz), Bontrager Line Pro 30 carbon wheels (w/ TyreWiz), SRAM X0 T-Type throughout (no corners cut on cassette or chain), SRAM Code Silver brakes with HS2 rotors - 220mm front, 200mm out back. Furthermore, a RockShox AXS 170mm dropper (seriously, SRAM, where's the 200mm+ AXS dropper?) and one-piece carbon Bontrager RSL MTB bar and stem. And of course, let's not forget the aforementioned Bosch Performance Line CX motor, smart system, and 750Wh battery.

This sucker retails for 11,299 USD / 14,799 CAD. There is no way to argue that isn't an amazing amount of money. A similarly spec'd Santa Cruz Heckler comes in at 15,049 CAD, though it has a Shimano EP-801 motor rather than Bosch, and Reserve carbon wheels instead of the Rail's house brand Bontrager carbon wheels. Maybe those two things cancel each other out, depending on personal preference. Either way, they're both Porsche pricing, and not pedestrian 911s either - these are Turbo S type packages. If you dig a little deeper, there are some pretty dramatic savings you could make on this Rail without giving up any meaningful performance, in my opinion. With apologies to Trek's PM, I'm going to pick at some loose ends here, because if I were buying an e-bike, I'd want either Transmission or LinkGlide on it. Both were designed with the needs of e-bikes in mind, and you're going to save in the long run on drivetrain components if you go in one of those two directions.

Spec Regrets - AirWiz and TyreWiz

I made a comparison to the Heckler up above for good reason. Santa Cruz was never a bargain brand, but their pricing has increased relative to their already heady sticker cost. You do get incredible quality and support, free lifetime bearing replacements, and good resale values, and those are all worth something. So, for less than a $500 premium, why am I picking on Santa Cruz? Because the slightly lower priced Trek has quite a bit of extra money wrapped up in its spec package, notably due to the presence of AirWiz, TyreWiz, and that one-piece carbon bar and stem.

Quarq TyreWiz has been around since 2018 (TyreWiz 2.0 was just released). It is a tire pressure monitoring system that includes small LEDs mounted near each tire valve that shine green when you're within a prescribed pressure range, and blink red when you're high or low of that range. Control and monitoring is via SRAM's AXS app, and it works as advertised. You can watch your phone screen while you add air to your tires and make adjustments within a tenth of a psi (or other units). I've had TyreWiz on my Sentinel since 2019, and used it until the coin cell batteries died - and I never replaced them. That's how much I cared when it didn't work anymore, and I have the batteries right here in a drawer. Checking air pressure before every ride is an enjoyable part of my routine, and having to pull out my phone to do it adds a step - as does having to watch my phone to dial in pressure. I'd rather just use a floor pump and digital gauge and be done with it. At an aftermarket street price of $214 US per pair, I don't know how much TyreWiz is adding to the MSRP of this bike, but judging by how seldom we see it spec'd elsewhere, I'm guessing it's not generating a ton of margin for brands.

On to AirWiz. This is also a pressure monitoring system, integrated into the RockShox fork and shock on the Rail, also controlled by the AXS app. Like TyreWiz, you can feed a few data points into it, like rider weight, and it'll spit out setup guidelines. Like TyreWiz, you can use it to monitor your suspension's pressure using the app, and be alerted if it falls outside of your prescribed settings range. Like TyreWiz, I find it completely unnecessary. Actually, I find it less necessary than TyreWiz, because I actually use TyreWiz. Tire pressure needs to be checked before every ride (sometimes during) while suspension pressure is a once a month, maybe change of seasons or drastic change in ride conditions kind of thing. Together, I'm guessing they add $3-500 of MSRP. Listen, I understand they both provide some sort of utility and that there's a market for that, and I've had quite a few raised eyebrows over the years in response to TyreWiz - people are genuinely impressed by it (but don't buy it) - but it's just more batteries and complexity and really, they're not performance upgrades. Racing could be a use case for one or both, but for just grabbing the bike and going riding, I'm not going to check my suspension pressure, but I'm always going to check my tire pressure, and even if the LEDs are green, I still want to know precisely what pressure I start with.

More Spec Regrets - RSL MTB bar/stem and that damn saddle

Deniz and Cam have both written about the Bontrager RSL MTB bar/stem combo, and they both liked it. It's an engineering marvel that saves weight and uses pretty standard measurements, so if you are middle of the road with your cockpit setup, it may work for you. I find myself generally liking the position it puts me in, but occasional sore wrists have me wanting slightly more backsweep so I may try a swap - no big deal as I have stuff I can use on hand to do that. But for the consumer, that's a bar and a stem you'll need to buy. Bummer. Although I guess you could sell the RSL bar/stem combo or trade it back to the shop for credit. Anyway, at 365 US / 450 CAD (retail) that's another addition to the MSRP. Are we at $500 yet? It's adding up now.

Taken all together, the Wizzes and the one-piece bar and stem are spec'd here for a clear purpose: to appeal to a certain type of buyer. The one with a more casual eye when it comes to the budget, who will be impressed by a few more Wiz-bang doodads on the shop floor. That's fine. It's just not for me.

Last thing: the saddle. Over the years, everyone at NSMB has universally hated the Bontrager Arvada, and that includes everyone to whom I leant the last Rail as well. It's awful. Beware.

Dear Trek: I want a LinkGlide or GX T-Type equipped Rail, carbon wheels optional, skip the AXS post and put one on that's a proper length, delete fancy carbon integrated bar/stem, and the Wizzes, and let's get it down by 2-2.5k, mmkay?

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The Trek Rail's Bontrager SE6 Team Issue up front.

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And the SE5 out back. They were great in the dry, and especially composed on slabs, but moisture on wood, rock, and event packed dirt is an issue. Out they go for the winter.

Changes incoming

I couldn't wait any longer and swapped a SQlab 60X saddle in almost right away. More on that soon, but it is made for me - a new favourite.

I haven't swapped out the bar/stem yet. Will at least cut it down from its stock 820 to 790mm although I didn't mind it at full width for the steeps in Whistler over Crankworx.

The Bontrager SE6 and SE5 tires have to go now that the rain is here. They were great in dry conditions and terrific on slabs, but no bueno as soon as there's a hint of moisture on the trail.

The RockShox Super Deluxe Thru Shaft shock is leaking and burping oil. We're going to have it serviced and see if that helps. It's otherwise boinging really well and providing tons of traction.

Geometry

I'm going to leave the two geo charts here and let you be the judge. The last Rail I tested was an XL. Trek basically bumped everything up a size, and effective seat tubes got steeper, but most other changes were small other than increased stacks. I liked how the last gen's XL fit, but this gen's L is even better for me. We're getting long so I'm going to save some of the geo talk for the review.

Pete Roggeman BOTW Trek Rail Gen 4

Spec

Frame: Trek OCLV Carbon, Removable Integrated Battery (RIB), Knock Block 2.0, guided internal routing, 34.9mm seat tube, magnesium rocker link, Motor Armor, Mino Link, ABP, Boost148, 12mm thru axle, 150mm travel

Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Thru Shaft, AirWiz, 230mm x 57.5mm
Fork: RockShox ZEB Ultimate, 160mm travel, AirWiz, eMTB optimized crown, 44mm offset (170mm max compatible fork travel)

Wheels: Bontrager Line Pro 30, OCLV Mountain Carbon, 6-bolt, Boost148
Tires: Bontrager SE6 (F) and SE5 (F), 29 x 2.5" (max 2.6") 120 tpi
Brakes: SRAM Code Silver 4-piston
Rotors:
SRAM HS2, 220mm (F), 200m (R)

Shifter: SRAM AXS POD Ultimate
Rear Derailleur: SRAM X0 Eagle AXS, T-Type
Crank: SRAM X0 Eagle, 34T, T-Type, 160mm
Chainring: SRAM XX T-Type, 34T, steel
Cassette: SRAM Eagle XC-1295, T-Type, 10-52, 12-speed
Chain: SRAM X0 Eagle, T-Type, 12-speed

Saddle: Bontrager Arvada, austenite rails, 138mm width
Seatpost: RockShox Reverb AXS, 170mm travel (S: 100mm, M: 150mm), 34.9mm
Bar/stem: Bontrager RSL Integrated handlebar/stem, OCLV Carbon, 27.5mm handlebar rise, 820mm width, 0 degree stem rise, 45mm stem length
Grips: Bontrager XR Trail Elite, nylon lock-on

Motor: Bosch Performance Line CX, smart system, magnesium motor body, 85 Nm
Battery: Bosch PowerTube 750Wh*, smart system (size S Rails come with a 625 Wh battery)
Controller: Bosch System Controller, smart system
Remote: Bosch Mini Remote BRC3300

Weight: Trek lists a size M at 23.75 kg / 52.36 lbs. My size L tester with Shimano Saint clipless pedals (porky suckers at 546g) weighs 24.67 kg / 54.4 lbs.

Pete Roggeman The Thing Whistler Trek Rail Gen 4

There's a lot to talk about with this bike, which is why I wanted to review it. I'm not going to get into ride impressions here, but the early indications are excellent. I expected this based on the predecessor, but I like this Rail even more, which I'll put down to the more capable Zeb (the last Rail had a Lyrik), the higher stack, and a more composed ride from the shock. So far, Transmission is as idiot-proof as it's meant to be, and I have differing opinions on that, but if I tuck my elitism aside, it's pretty astounding how well it shifts in really brutal conditions. And finally, Bosch's new smart system is just that. Love or hate all the whizz bang and integration, the application of technology on bikes these days is pretty incredible. I understand the desire to have no batteries and no assistance, but that's a separate conversation. For what it is, this Trek Rail is an absolute beast.

Trek Rail 9.9 X0 AXS T-Type Gen 4 - 11,299 USD / 14,799 CAD

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Timer
+4 cornedbeef hotlapz dhr999 bishopsmike

I’m astonished that Trek is still using all the gimmicky nonsense on this e-bike that they have abandoned on the recent mountainbikes. Thinking of „straight shot“, „knock block“, „tru-shaft“ and the likes.

It does fit in with Tire- and Air-wiz though.

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Jotegir
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For what it's worth this seems like the ideal knock block platform to me.  Big, lever smashy bike weights, a huge battery inside the downtube with RIB (I'll lump straight shot in with knock block here), and on an ebike platform you're less likely to have any issues with turning in tight because of the extra push (which is an issue I've never experienced on quite a few knockblock bikes).

I'll admit I was a bit surprised to see the thru shaft shock sticking around on this one though.

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cooperquinn
+2 Matt Cusanelli dhr999 Kos bishopsmike

Knock block is great. I wish more bikes had it.

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JVP
+2 dhr999 Velocipedestrian

After tumbling down, down, down a hill and almost ripping my brake line out from the bar spinning, I can see the value of knock block. Non-standard shock, however.... no sale.

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Jotegir
+4 Pete Roggeman Konrad dhr999 JVP

It's not the case of older treks that use a unique eye to eye. This is standard sizing with other bits stuffed into it. This is far less egregious in my view.

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hotlapz
+4 handsomedan Hardlylikely Velocipedestrian Niels van Kampenhout

$15k lmao

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Dogl0rd
+1 Cru_Jones Hardlylikely E-wok

I don't like Ebikes, but I'm interested in hearing about the geo.

Short-ish reach and longish chainstays. Wonder what that feels like

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pete@nsmb.com
+1 Dogl0rd

I'll definitely dig into it during ride impressions. This first look was really stretching out in length and I know I focused a lot on spec but I felt like there were a lot of things to dig into there.

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Cru_Jones
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It didn't feel great to me, but that's likely due to my bmx background. I assume some people like it though.

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kos
+1 bishopsmike

Great intro. Looking forward to the first ride and long review stuff. Hoping Bosch someday gets rid of the clacking when descending.

I think you got the Gen 3's geo table pasted in there?

The 9.8 XT is damn near what you asked for. When the 12-speed XT wears out (or the RD breaks off due to corrosion) just slap Linkglide on there. Meanwhile, revel in the separate bar/stem combo, not to mention the 200 mm dropper, at least in XL sizes.

Picking nits: Aren't Reserve just Santa Cruz's house brand wheels, just like the Bontys are Treks? The latest version of the Bontys are tough. Tough enough in testing that they maybe should have renamed them.

https://theloamwolf.com/2021/01/06/review-bontrager-line-pro-30-wheels/

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pete@nsmb.com
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Yes, they're both house brand wheels and I've had great look with Bontrager wheels on several sets. The Reserves may have a little more cache in the aftermarket but the Bontys are great wheels.

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LoamtoHome
+1 Ryan Walters

Really surprised ebikes are 12 speed.... when would you ever be in the top gear?

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Jotegir
+3 DancingWithMyself Zero-cool E-wok

When you're climbing stuff that was never conceived to be climbable on something with pedals.

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LoamtoHome
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you're not going to have any kind of traction in first gear on an ebike

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Dogl0rd
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Sure you will, with a second chainring

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pete@nsmb.com
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You'd be surprised. But it's got a 34t ring.

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Jotegir
+2 Zero-cool E-wok

That's not been my experience. Between the weight, suspension, fancy torque sensors, and good tires I've not had too many issues.

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rwalters
+6 Niels van Kampenhout Lu Kz dhr999 Velocipedestrian Mark trumpstinyhands

Funny story:

Sram makes a very compelling 8-speed, E-bike specific drivetrain called EX 1. I requested to review it on my regular bike because I heard it was super burly. I've seen this drivetrain on exactly zero bikes in the wild. When I asked an industry insider why manufacturers weren't spec-ing this drivetrain on e-bikes, his response was: "People think less gears means lower end - everyone wants 12 speed because 12 is a bigger number, and that makes it automatically the best".

lol

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Jotegir
+1 Ryan Walters

Rocky specced EX1 on the OG Altitude PowerPlay - the very first model year, at least on some of the models. It was great. Easy setup, good shifting, long life. It was gone by the next year. 

That's the only time I've ever seen it. Can't imagine it'll be in the lineup any time past the spares they already made last.

I wonder what the weight comparison between EX1 and Transmission is? Transmission is a freaking tank.

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rwalters
+3 Lu Kz Jerry Willows Velocipedestrian

The EX-1 cassette is heavy at 320g, but the lightest Transmission cassette (XX SL) is 350g.

Even without a motor on my bike, an 8 speed 11-48 is all I need for the riding I do. While I feel the jumps between gears might take some getting used to, I'd really love to try EX-1 out.

I'm sure Sram isn't too upset that EX-1 didn't take off, not when they can sell $1000 derailleurs and cassettes instead.

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syncro
+1 Timer

$600 for a cassette makes EX-1 a no sale.

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kperras
+1 Pete Roggeman

It's been a few years (2018 was when we launched the first gen APP with EX1) but if I recall EX1 was expensive for the spec. Some finishing details didn't quite match the price, and the replacement part cost, especially for ebikes that quickly wear through drivetrain parts, was very high. In the long run, the most compelling feature was Sram's excellent chain life which also shows up on X0 and XX1 groups. 

Fast forward to today and you're better off with say a GX drivetrain paired with an X0 chain. You can even buy GX shifters with the single click feature if you don't want to row through mutitple cogs under power.

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pete@nsmb.com
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It may not be obvious to people that haven't ridden ebikes much, but it's fairly important to have well-spaced gearing if you plan to do long rides and preserve your battery, which requires good cadence.

XXX_er
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you can chose to pay for the high price stuff but I just refreshed my 12spd NX drive train for < 300 $ on my lowest spec E-bike and I see NX DERs for 150$, I upgraded to x01 chain the gears are all steel and its reasonably bullit proof

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XXX_er
+1 Pete Roggeman

IME on a road or the gravel  road next to the golf course its pretty easy to maintain 32kph so thats when i'm actualy wishing it was faster but on real mtn bike trails I've  averaged only 12kph for 3700kms

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Jotegir
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So if gen 2 had the goofy bar mount controller and screen and didn't get the update, what do you call the 9.7 with gen 2 geometry but the higher end controller that did get the power assist update? It can't be a gen 3 because gen 3 got a slight geometry update between 2 and 4, and to my recollection, only appeared in the highest end models.

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pete@nsmb.com
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Is the one you're talking about still available online?

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Jotegir
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It is, I checked, they call it the Gen 2. It has the E-stuff of the gen3 but the geo of the gen 2.

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craw
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So we're back to bikes that come loaded up with substandard/inappropriate parts but we're sticking with the 15k price tag. Finally the worst of both worlds. At 15k shouldn't the consumer expect some level of parts customization/optimization?

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pete@nsmb.com
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To be fair to Trek, I think that with LinkGlide and GX T-Type now available, next year's spec and cost picture on the Rail line will be more compelling. The model I'm testing is the one with all the stuff thrown in, but they'll certainly have interesting options in the future.

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agleck7
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I check suspension pressure every ride (and tires)!! It’s pretty sensitive to air temp in my experience. And our temps fluctuate a fair amount here - maybe less so in BC?

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BarryW
-3 Joseph Crabtree OldManBike Dogl0rd JVP DancingWithMyself XXX_er dhr999 turd_alert lev3000

:-(

More bicycle content would be great! 

Less low powered motorcycles please!

This place is beginning to feel like 'Enduro' or 'Loam Wolf'.

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Schmolson
0 dhr999 Dogl0rd

I understand your stance, and appreciate your right to voice your opinion. 

It does seem like there are a lot of us that disagree with you regarding whether pedal assist e-bikes are bicycles or, in your words motorcycles.

It turns out that the EU Court of Justice also disagrees with you: 

E-bikes are Bicycles Not Motorbikes

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BarryW
-2 Hardlylikely dhr999 turd_alert lev3000

While articles about courts ruling on whether the rider in this case gets government insurance as being a 'vulnerable user' compared to a car are interesting, in every case it is clear it is a bicycle with a motor added. I don't know about you, but I don't often think the courts are the place I get my real world definitions. 

And yep, it is my opinion that these are the gateway to more powerful, throttle-only 'ebikes' on trails made for human power. 

And they don't = more trail time, that is an absurdist argument. Going faster doesn't mean more time. They are just about more consumption. How can mtb be more of a rich sport where it is only about the gravity aspect and fitness be damned.

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XXX_er
+1 Andy Eunson dhr999 lev3000 BarryW Timer

Yeah so Barry  wanks up every E-bike thread,  the only way to deal with a troll is to not engage with them, so do not comment on his comments

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BarryW
-2 dhr999 lev3000

Hypocrite much? 

If you actually read my comment it was mellow, not triggering and yet you had to respond. 

Why are you so bothered by me being bothered by low-powered motorcycles on bike trails?

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XXX_er
+1 dhr999 lev3000 BarryW

Yeah so Barry  wanks up every E-bike thread,  the only way to deal with a troll is to not engage with them, so do not comment on his comments

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BarryW
-2 dhr999 lev3000

Loving your level of sophistication. 

Very nice.

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XXX_er
0 dhr999 lev3000 BarryW Hardlylikely

Yeah so Barry  wanks up every E-bike thread,  the only way to deal with a troll is to not engage with them, so do not comment on his comments

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