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Pretty far from budget hubs imo. I9 doesn't make anything "budget" in the hub department.  This isn't a 14k bike coming with novatech, bear pawls, brandless, or the (actually quite nice) j-bend bontrager hub.

@Deniz, you'd then have to put the whole brand/kinship/community aspect in the garbage though. I think that's something.

Sizing up to a large? That would be... Difficult.

Bar width preference discussions are so great these days, you get everything under the sun. Here's someone asking for 780 bars on a bike that comes with 760. I assume they are shorter than I am and on a smaller sized bike (this is a fair assumption, IMO, because Juliana clearly doesn't want tall women riding their band).

This summer, I switched my DH, Enduro, and trail bikes all to 760. It was eye opening. everything, and I mean everything, got better once I was used to it. There was a bit of compromise in the first couple rides but it's disappeared for pure gain (I am 6' 2" and run XLs, for the record). 

A good friend is like 5' 6" and extremely fast, runs mediums, and I'm pretty sure will be buried holding a bunch of 800mm wide bars in the casket.

At the end of the day I do agree bikes should come with 800s (at least) though. Let the customer choose and curse any shop who doesn't have that discussion when the bike is sold and let's them go out at 800 without mentioning it to a rider that doesn't know better.

Yeah, that's a fair criticism of norcos entire lineup right now re weight.

On the flipside, the frame  warranty rate has been near zero for our VERY busy shop in this most recent generation of platforms. This kicks the shit out of literally every brand I have experience with. 

And your last note, fun is subjective. Different strokes, after all.

Did you try turning it off and on again?

This bike is a solid middle finger to... Someone, I guess. 

Never realized that about the name til now.

@Deniz Merdano

Ah well, this is one of those weird times where you saw a product release article, but then promptly forgot of that product's existence for several years until reminded.

I recall seeing that release but in my mind DXR's are still those giant plastic things. Oops!

That seems crazy, I never could get a set of DXR's to last more than a season because of the plastic ring on the outboard side that is essential to keeping the plastic body aligned cracks quite easily in my experience. My parts bin has a couple sets from when I ran them a few years ago, I no longer have a complete set without one or both sides cracked. 

I guess people still buying them are either set in their ways, lighter and more talented than I am, or riding the north shore trails that... don't have rocks?

I'm also the opposite of CR4W. I prefer fairly light spring action, so that (combined with the metal bodies) might be why I quite like my Saints on the DH bike.

seeing as you guys haven't mentioned it... I wonder how they compare to the clipless Saint pedal? IMO the DXR is now 100% obsolete for MTB applications.

I got 2 pairs of TREES shorts last season - neither lasted the whole season. Quite low quality stuff.