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MEC Mochilero Stretch Pants: Min-Max?

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Min-Max Mandate

I dropped by my local MEC to look at school backpacks. My daughter's lasted four hard years of use and the first of many pending holes had popped through. Time for a replacement. As with every gear concern, they had some excellent discounts. Look at me getting everything squared away well before school started!

Only one problem: there were too many options, so I abandoned buying one without consulting her and rewarded my retail restraint with a Ritter Sport chocolate bar. Mint chocolate.

On my way through I happened to walk by these Mochilero stretch pants on a mannequin, in an eye-catching but not dirt-friendly light blue. Nylon and spandex mix, robust stitching, certified Fair Trade and Bluesign, made in India, available in a ream of sizes. All for $90.

Good for mountain biking?

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Today I'm looking at MEC Core Train long sleeve & short sleeve jerseys... (Photo: Meg)

Banshee Engima MEC Core Train Mochilero Showers Pass NSMB Andrew Major by Meg

...and their Mochilero Stretch pants. Neither piece is sold as a cycling product. (Photo: Meg)

To be clear, these are not made or marketed for mountain biking. They're certainly not as good as specific gear like my Leatt MTB pants. But I love multi-use gear and the Mochileros, in addition to being good to ride in, are great pants for living in as well. They're also less money, and the most common theme in recent reader correspondence are requests for more min-max material.

I've been pedaling in them a lot. Temperature regulation and stretch are similar to other mid-weight pants I've ridden in. They fit different sizes of knee pads without issue and they're still wearable even when they're soaked through in a proper Raincouver deluge. So happy to have the rain back!

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Mountain Equipment Company meets belt loops. (Photos: The Clairebarian)

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Solid pairings for my Showers Pass rain vest on a grey day.

The best feature is the one-pair-of-pants-to-do-it-all factor. After that, the pile of size options is amazing. I'd say they're true to the MEC size chart. I'm wearing a 34/32 but should have gone with a 34/30. I count twenty available sizes. Waist sizing adjustment is accomplished with belt loops.

There isn't a women's version of the Mochilero Stretch but the Terrena Stretch looks like the closest option and sells for the same price. These are made in Indonesia, rather than India, but are also Certified as Fair Trade and Bluesign. They have buttons and tabs to convert them to capris and a different pocket layout but the fabric and construction are very similar. They also sell in a plethora of size options, especially relative to mountain bike-specific pants.

MEC Mochilero Pants Core Train shirt Andrew Major by JacAttack

Thoroughly crash-tested along with the new reverse-arch Lyrik. (Photo: JacAttack)

Changes

I wish the legs tapered a bit more in my size 34/32. The bottoms are of course narrower in smaller sizes so thinner riders are going to have a better fit relative to their crankset. I didn't have any interface issues, but it is something that lived in the back of my mind.

There's a zippered cellphone pocket on the front of the right leg. It doesn't bother me when riding on my mountain bike when I'm wearing knee pads. But, it could bother some folks so I'm mentioning it.

If this was a mountain-bike-specific product the gusseted area of the crotch would be larger. Some riders who don't wear a chamois may find that their position on the bike has an uncomfortable stitching interface. I don't have any issue, but I can foresee it being an issue for some.

Finally, for use off the bike I'd like the front pockets to be a bit deeper. I mean, they fit all my stuff just fine but they could be a bit more generous.

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In my perfect riding world, the pants would taper more at the lower leg. (Photo: Meg)

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All-time greatest NSMB socks. Shimano GF6 shoes - review in progress. (Photo: Meg)

With that said, if I lost these tomorrow I'd definitely replace them. I wear the Mochileros multiple times a week in a cycle: a day or two for regular life, go for a ride, wash them, repeat.

The Mochilero Stretch pants sell for 90 CAD in three colours, in the pile of aforementioned sizes.

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Plenty of stretch and space to accommodate any of my knee pads. (Photo: The Clairebarian)

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The Mochileros easily cover my three-year old Pearl Izumi Elevate knees. (Photo: Mr. Lungtastic)

MEC Core Train Tops

My normal mountain biking tops are lightweight merino wool t-shirts. They do not hide the fact that I get properly sweaty when I ride in the way a cycling jersey will. They don't come in exciting patterns or designs. They represent high value to me despite the upfront cost of a good one because I wear them years past the point most folks would consider them presentable.

But for the past few months I've ridden almost exclusively in these two Core Train tops, one long sleeve and one short sleeve. They're 100% polyester and while they don't run as odour-free as my merino tops they do manage both sweat and rain very well. They're soft to the touch and nice to wear. They're lightweight and they've proven bombproof.

When it rains I've been using the long sleeve Core Train with my Showers Pass weatherproof vest, and it never gets heavy or uncomfortable and the fabric is hydrophobic enough that my core stays dry even when the sleeves are wet.

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A rare photo in the short sleeve Core Train, though I have worn it a bunch. (Photo: The Clairebarian)

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For whatever reason, I much prefer the long sleeve version. Hot days, I roll the sleeves up. (Photo: Meg)

The fabric is very breathable and I recommend them as tops for folks who run hot. But I will push back hard on one of MEC's Core Train marketing claims:

"The odour minimizing treatment allows daily sweat sessions without daily laundry."

Yeah, this one's complete bullshit. You couldn't pay me to put my Core Train top back on after I'd worn it for any amount of exercise without washing it first. That said, I also don't wear merino tops for multiple days without washing them unless I'm desperate on a road trip. I love a salt-bath, but I'd rather it not be my own salt.

I only them use for riding or hiking, and for whatever reason I always find myself reaching for the long sleeve, and rolling up the sleeves if it's hot, unless I've not done laundry in which case the short sleeve is fine. Again, these are true to the size chart and I'm wearing a large.

The MEC Core Train long sleeve is available in men's and women's cuts for 55 CAD. The short sleeve models in men's or women's are sold for 45 CAD. These are all made in Indonesia and Bluesign certified.

MEC Core Train Mochilero Pant NSMB Andrew Major by Mr Lungtastic

Brand new Shimano shoes, well-used Acre pack, go-to Kali Invader lid, worn out 100% gloves, MEC Mochilero Stretch pants, and a MEC Core Train long-sleeve top. (Photo: Mr. Lungtastic)

*Mountain Equipment Company

I'd best add some sort of acknowledgment about the fact that MEC used to be a co-op and now it's a corporation. I'm not making claims that the changes at the company couldn't have happened without changing the governing structure, but what is clear is that the new people at the top are doing a much better job than those who ran it before.

I've met former employees who've gone back to work there, and some who stayed through the transition, and all are clearly happier even if they miss the idea of the cooperative. The quality, value, and appeal of their own MEC-branded gear have improved and the product line is streamlined. Also, they've returned to a focus on outdoor gear and they're not bankrupt.

I get it. I previously worked on the local MEC night stock crew part-time for a while as part of my hustle to be a full-time dad and contribute to household income. I worked with some amazing people and made some lifetime friendships, and the turmoil around the change affected a lot of awesome folks I care about.

But it's great to still see a lot of familiar faces when I go into my local store, and it's nice to see the mountains back in the logo.

AndrewMajor
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Kenny
+6 Pete Roggeman bishopsmike Andrew Major roil BarryW humdishum

Sweet! Always nice to hear reviews for readily available affordable stuff that can cross function for mtb. 

Only problem is - min-max is currently broken because everything is on sale. 

Literally just bought a pair of leatt Enduro 3.0 pants from fortnine last night. Price? $86. Retail? $175. And what's crazy is that's not even anything special these days, as sales go.

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AndrewMajor
+1 lewis collins

Only problem is - min-max is currently broken because everything is on sale.

The one and only thing I’d say that contradicts this is that value is best calculated in $/use not purchase price. Amortize your life and all that. To me the Mochilero pant review is as much an argument for multi-use kit as about a price point. I wear these Mochilero pants regularly as pants*. I probably have as many hours in them as most folks would put in their Enduro 3.0 pants (which are great riding pants) in a year or two. 

*thus far they wash up fine after a muddy ride but we’ll see how they look in the spring. 

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That said, I agree that min-max is a bit broken when instead of choosing between an affordable price and top marks for comfort/quality/durability you can get both. There have been some awesome sales on gear as supply chains sort themselves out. 

I’m not collating deals - I actually got burned a bit ago for mentioning in a piece that Kali Invader helmets were 1/2 price and then later on when the piece went live they weren’t - so I’ll just keep plugging away in a world comparing SRPs - fictional as they might be for a bit - and use cases.

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roil
+1 Andrew Major

"value is best calculated in $/use not purchase price"

That's assuming you're choosing between identical widgets. Doesn't apply as well when you're comparing a multi-function vs specific use case items. There are some great deals on bikes at Walmart if you want to apply this rational...

I bought a pair of Rapha trail light pants on sale at REI. The material, the cut and the design is really great. I like the side zipper pockets more than conventional pant pockets for carrying things on or off the bike. Maybe I should wear them daily! Athleisure is very trendy.

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AndrewMajor
+1 thaaad

"Maybe I should wear them daily! Athleisure is very trendy."

Yes.

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"There are some great deals on bikes at Walmart if you want to apply this rational..."

I guess I didn't feel the need to specify they'd be items you'd actually wanted to use/own. Noted for next time.

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roil
+1 Andrew Major

For the record, I wasn't joking about wearing the Raphas daily. I'm going to try it out. 

"I guess I didn't feel the need to specify they'd be items you'd actually wanted to use/own. Noted for next time."

Haha. There are varying degrees to how much we "want" things. I love your concept of min max but quality over quantity is an important factor as well.

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AndrewMajor
+3 roil lewis collins mudhoney

"...quality over quantity is an important factor as well."

100%. I don't own a lot of things, but the things I own tend to be high quality and around for a long-long time. Clothing or otherwise.

Vikb
+3 Pete Roggeman Andrew Major GB

These pants are great. I have the "stretch" and "cargo" versions. I like a long leg and I can get them in a 34" x 34" so I'm happy. I don't MTB in them, but the "stretch" version are great for my urban transport/errand riding missions with an ankle strap to keep them grease free. I bought mine on sale from the discount section of the MEC website. I don't recall what I paid, but it seemed like a reasonable price.

My go to day to day pants were a few pairs of the same model from Prana that I've had for a decade+ and have worn pretty threadbare. They've been relegated to bike wrenching, yard work and camping duties. The Mochilero pants get used when I need to look more respectable. My gear spidey sense says they'll last an equally long time.

The "stretch" version have a skinny jean vibe while the "cargo" version appease my retired raver nostalgia for roomy pants. Given the whole chain thing the "stretch" version are better for riding.

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AndrewMajor
+1 Vik Banerjee

I love them for day-to-day and commuting. Interesting about the cargo version being baggier. I like a baggier option for ‘work’ pants so I’ll check them out.

No doubts on durability after what I’ve put these through so far but I plan to MTB in them all winter so I guess we’ll see for sure in spring.

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Jotegir
+3 cheapondirt Andrew Major 93EXCivic

Stretch pants on the hanger: min

Stretch pants when I'm wearing them: max

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AndrewMajor
+1 GB

I’m not riding yoga pants :)

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Jotegir
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less about yoga pants, more about that post-Canadian-thanksgiving October riding

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AndrewMajor
0

Working on it, always. Best time of year to ride.

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thaaad
+2 Andrew Major lewis collins

Love it, some of my best pieces of cycling clothing aren't cycling clothing :)

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AndrewMajor
+1 thaaad

Mine too! Exceptions obviously for shoes and gloves.

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AndrewMajor
+3 Morgan Heater mudhoney thaaad

Feeling remiss in not mentioning that my daughter has had excellent results from the mid-weight version of Adidas track pants. They’re tough, they don’t get fully saturated and they stay up. 

To me the cut is perfect for riding right down to the tapered legs.

Definitely always looking beyond MTB-specific.

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oldmanbike
+1 Andrew Major

Impressive!

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AndrewMajor
+1 Velocipedestrian

That roll is much easier than it appears… mountain biking… I have some photos on harder features that look like nothing.

But cheers! Claire’s put a lot of hours in, in all weather, and it shows.

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93EXCivic
+2 Andrew Major thaaad

And they are usually way way cheaper then mtb stuff

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AndrewMajor
+1 thaaad

Especially as they seem to make very minor changes each year and clear out the previous gen. We’ve paid full pop for a couple pairs but most have been clearouts.

Have had to get knees patched a couple times but that’s life.

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Timer
+1 Andrew Major

It also works the other way round, I wear riding shirts to the gym and use riding shorts and backpacks for hiking.

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AndrewMajor
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100%. All the shorts I own were intended for riding - the knickers I work in, my daily drivers, and even my commuter short(er) shorts that I wear to hike. 

With Merino T’s I usually wear them for daily use until they’re worn and them make them riding/hiking tops - queue ‘The Circle of Life’

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GB
+2 HughJass Andrew Major

Looks like the red rocks of Cumberland in the one picture.  Probably my favorite climbing trail and an incredibly strong positive cycling vibe in the community. 

Yes bring on the non specific clothing options . I definitely prefer trousers that look more pedestrian than dedicated mountain bikers pants .

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AndrewMajor
+1 GB

Yes, that’s the entrance to Bear Buns. It was second only to Thirsty Beaver in terms of new-to-her trails Claire experienced this summer. She was also quite pleased with that photo.

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steven-kovalenko
+1 Vik Banerjee

Decathlon has some very good min-max pieces. I am late to discovering them, and If I were starting over in outdoor sports I would be shopping there regularly for clothing.  I love my DP3s, but they're basically reserved for shuttle and bike park days. The $55 "Forclaz jogger" has been my go-to this year as a lightweight pant. 100% recommend trying them on in person, as sizing is weird. Cut is functionally identical to stretchy lightweight MTB pants: https://www.decathlon.ca/en/p/8678188/mens-hiking-pants-mh-500-khaki

I haven't crash tested them, but kneepads fit under fine, and at $55 I don't have to care that much.

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cxfahrer
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Decathlon may be great if you never need anything longer than 34 and are happy with 34 or larger waist.

A shop that addresses overweight people on eBikes may have its merits, but every time I go there everything is sooo awful, and it smells like bad rubber etc etc ;)... I bought a tent and walking equipment many years ago, these were quite ok.

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AndrewMajor
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I didn’t know Decathalon was a store, I always thought it was a clothing brand.

Quebec, Ontario, Nova Scotia, and Alberta with a BC store “coming soon.” 

Not sure how I didn’t know that?

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Sethimus
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they are one of the biggest sports retailers, make around 15 billion/year. the store to go to if you want min/maxing every sport…

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Sethimus
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go translate this article about the effort they put in just in their bike division:

https://www.mtb-news.de/news/hausbesuch-decathlon/

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Timer
+1 Andrew Major

Sizing might depend on county with Decathlon. In their home country of France, sizing is definitely on the slimmer and smaller side. Particularly when compared to tent-like international sizing from brands like North Face or Schöffel.

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AndrewMajor
+1 Timer

One thing I appreciate about Swrve (where my trashed out knickers came from) is that the sizes actually match measurements and they include a guide (and warning) on how to match the fit.

Even then I’m in between in so many things I either need to commit to drinking more beer or less beer. I think that’s why I like non-riding pants and the plethora or sizes they come in rather than guessing which side of the medium and large border I fall on.

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AndrewMajor
+1 mnihiser

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93EXCivic
+1 Andrew Major

I have some of those I use in winter down here in Alabama. I got them on sale for like $20 USD. I have crashed tested them and can confirm they don't hold up great but nothing a fabric Clash patch couldn't fix.

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AndrewMajor
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I was thinking of this as regards my MUSA baggies. Hit some rocks on both knees (wearing knee pads) and just knew in the moment I’d trashed them. Get up, totally fine.

Is it the material? They’re magical? Or did I just get lucky? 

I’ve eaten it in these MEC pants but so far only onto surfaces that bruise not surfaces that tear.

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Vikb
+1 Andrew Major

I've done okay with Decathlon. I've got some really great items at low prices. I've also gotten a few poorly made/fitting items. Overall my success rate is high enough I'd give them a look if I needed something, but I set my expectations realistically about what I am likely to get.

At least for the items I've tried Decathlon is a step down from MEC house brand items, but the price is lower as well.

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humdishum
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Same experience for me. I was eager to go see what they had to offer, but 90% of the time clothes didnt fit me at all (too tight at the waist or too baggy) and they often have color combos that I don't jive with. I did not go back in more than a year, but I guess when their clothes fit your shape it might be more tempting.

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taprider
+1 Andrew Major

Are you trolling with the mint chocolate?

I think there is another thread of comments way back. Split between those who like and those who think adding mint to chocolate makes it toothpaste flavoured.

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AndrewMajor
0

I mean… I wasn’t intentionally trolling but I also faintly recall that conversation.

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pete@nsmb.com
+3 Andrew Major taprider Velocipedestrian

I remember now, too. You snuck that one past the goalie!

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AndrewMajor
+2 taprider Velocipedestrian

Totally accidental/ coincidental / that’s actually what I bought. Swear it. 

(Hahahahahaha)

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T0m
+1 Andrew Major

We don’t have MEC here in Canada’s crappy southern coUSin. I do have a pair of the MUSA (Rivendell) pants and they’ve impressed me with durability, fit, and how versatile they are. 

More impressed though with the pics of you and Claire riding slimy wood and slimy rocks that would put me on my ass ASAP. Not to mention all the other air, wood, root, and slab pics of regular contributors. BC riders are next level.

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AndrewMajor
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Love my MUSA baggies - same - but I sometimes wonder if I shouldn't have gotten a small - which is a bit bizarre! I mean, size recommendation wise I'm a medium but...

Cheers! We're running the brakes, tires, and geometry to make it happen and certainly you learn quick how to feather everything. If you ever make the trip up be sure to do it during rainy season to get the proper Shore experience!

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slyfink
+1 Andrew Major

I have a pair of OR Ferrosi pants that I bought on a deep discount back when MEC was still a coop. They were too big, but with the discount, I could afford to have them tailored and still come out ahead. Now I have semi-custom pants that perform and fit me how I want them to. pretty sweet.

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daithi
+1 Andrew Major

I do like regular "Mountain Bike Shorts" for the cut, but all of my riding shirts are just cheap running shirts I buy from Winners. Pick something that wicks sweat and fits long (or size up). Often find stuff south of $20 CAD. That being said in the East Koots we're more likely to be uncomfortable from heat exhaustion vs rain like Van.

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AndrewMajor
0

Nice shorts (or pants) and a budget top is the cycling fashion of many a person I’ve met.

I assume you ride a hardtail with 10-gears or fewer, or it has 10-gears x2 with a front derailleur? :)

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daithi
+1 Andrew Major

Sorry Andrew I'm not that cool. When you Assume you make an Ass of Uma Thurman or something like that.

My '96 Rocky Element was my commuter up until this summer, but that was more out of budget constraints than anything else.

I did "upgrade" that bike from 3x8 to 2x10 many moons ago when the only option for a small chainring with the correct BCD was a several hundred dollar roadie weight weenie chainring. At the time CRC would still ship Shimano to Canada and an entire groupset was less than that chainring only option.

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AndrewMajor
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Ah, I always thought it was an ancient saying… when you assume you make an ass of Ulysses?! Maybe yours is the updated version.

I love those old Elements. Don’t see many any more, guess the ones being ridden have all finally worn out. The 80mm ones with disc mounts could probably rival the new crop of full-suspension gravel rigs. Equipped with era-appropriate parts they’re an oft-missed example of how bikes flexing as a system is more important than absolute stiffness for ride quality. Something marketing departments have (re)discovering in a big way the last couple years.

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daithi
+1 Andrew Major

I bought that Element a little under 10 years ago for about $300. In my early 20s and had just moved to BC, it was my first mountain bike. Even then people would stop me on the trails to comment on how nostalgic (read: old) it was.

Last year I took it out for a casual green/blue ride while my more modern bike was waiting on a warranty repair... Let me tell you a blue run with rubber brakes was probably the scariest lap I've done in years. That thing did not keep up with my progression in the sport!

One day I'd like to own a house with a garage where I can hang that frame on the wall decoratively. I thought about putting more money into it but the suspension is clapped out, parts are hard to find and I don't know if it will ever see regular duty as a trail bike again. Ended up picking up a Marin Team Marin 1 as my commuter/light trail/potential bikepacking rig.

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andrewbikeguide
+1 Andrew Major

"All-time greatest NSMB sock" - so true.

I bought six pairs for my 2016 Trans-Provence adventure and they are still going strong even with five seasons of Chilcotin guiding abuse! Sock-guy socks certainly deliver great value.

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AndrewMajor
0

My one pair is getting near the end of their life, but they've outlived other pairs that came after and other Sockguy socks as well - that had many fewer hours on them. 

So yeah, these have been magical!

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Powking
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Am I the only voice of reason regarding MEC?!  At least here in Alberta it's my least favourite (and least frequented as a result) outdoor retailer.  Their MEC branded gear is overpriced and no one can tell me how long a warranty will be when I buy it.  However, EVERYONE there knows how long it is when one of their products fail - "life of the product" which means "warranty denied always".  

They used to warranty things that broke, or fix them at least.  Now they do neither because, corporations need to make money and you can't do that by serving people.  MEC needs a warranty recall!

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AndrewMajor
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Am I the only voice of reason regarding MEC?!

I guess so? 

Are you attempting to return items due to defects in materials or manufacturing, or because they didn’t suit your purpose, or because they didn’t meet your expectations? 

I’ve done a fair amount of bike shop warranty in my day and for every claim I thought was legit that was denied by a manufacturer I have a hundred “are you serious?” moments from what riders thought should be replaced free, so I guess I may be too ‘experienced’ to really comment objectively.

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