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Elbow Pad SHOOTOUT! (pewpew!)

My Battle with Elbows (5 Elbow Pads Back to Back)

Words Trevor Hansen
Photos Deniz Merdano and Pete Roggeman
Date Oct 22, 2020
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When I used to ride gnarly North Shore stunts I would wear as much armour as I could get on my body including knees, shins, Aircast ankle protection for all the rolled ankles from bailing, full upper body armour including elbows, shoulder and back protection. It was a lot like getting reading for ice hockey when I suited up for riding and just as stinky.

About ten years ago when I slowed the stunts down due to the injury recovery time keeping me off the bike for too long, I adopted the gear I see most riders using today; knees, half shell lids and gloves. I thought it was odd that we all cover our knee joints but not our elbow joints. Both pads restrict movement, create heat and take away from that no-pad feeling. Crashes typically involve knees and/or elbows to some degree so why not cover up both?

After clipping a pedal on a stump and slicing my elbow open, filling it with mud and bits of trail, I spent forty-five minutes in emerg. dealing with a doctor using a hose, tweezers, brush and scalpel to dig out as much dirt as he could. Some gunk remained so he gave me a pile of antibiotics and instructions to change my bandages and clean the wound every 8 hours. It was a massive hassle that would not have happened back in the elbow pad wearing days. Being a stubborn optimist, I rationalized that I would be more careful and after a month wearing elbow pads to cover the wound, I ditched the elbows for the freedom and anti-Joey status of naked arms.

About a year later, a few hundred metres down the same trail, my brake adaptor rotated into my rotor (ya I forgot to tighten it after adjusting the pads a month earlier) and I went OTB onto my elbow. No gashes - just a deformed and sore elbow, two ago years and counting.

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My left elbow has a permanent bend in it - something that could have been prevented with elbow pads.

I have resolved that I will wear elbows on every ride from now on, biker fashion/Joey status be damned. None of the riders in my different crews wear elbows even though most, like me, have had elbow trauma in their past. Two days after my latest crash, my buddy Gavin went down. He got the exact same emerg. treatment as me and he said he would be wearing elbows in the future. We’ll see how long that lasts after the wounds heal.

I tried Dakine Slayer elbows but did not like the fit nor the protection (I just gave them to Gavin). I rode a few times on old Race Face Dig hard shells that offer a lot of protection but they were bulky and uncomfortable. When I was in the NSMB bunker, Cam offered me some POC VPD System Lites to test against a pair of 7iDP Sam Hill Lite elbows. At last I had some elbow pads that seemed to fit and perform the way I wanted.

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7iDP elbows - comfortable, lowish profile and hopefully effective.

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7iDP Sam Hill Lite Elbows

These pads were my favourites (see Race Face Indys below) for a number of reasons: they are low profile, light, easy to fit in my hip pack and they keep my arms cooler than any of the other elbow pads I've tried (except the minimalist Race Face Charges). They have a Kevlar covering for tear and abrasion resistance and they use memory foam – nowhere near as scientific as POC's VPD but I just gotta hope it works when I do end up crashing. They have silicone at the top of the sleeve cuff for grip and elastic at the bottom of the sleeve which works on my skin or over my base layer. The sleeve is extra long which helps avoid slippage and avoids pinching the guns. They also have loops that help with hang drying and rolling them up for pack storage. They are easy to wash: simply take out the memory foam and insert again after they are dry.

The price is right as well: $90 CAD.

7iDP Sam Hill Lite Elbows

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POC VPD System Lite Elbows

POC's VPD is Visco-Elastic Polymer Dough which sounds scientific until the dough part. POC claims that it transitions from soft to hard during impact (the title of your sex tape).

For sleep-inducing reading on research into VPD read this.

I liked the mesh inner sleeve (single layer of spandex) and the ventilated VPD material but they were still a bit hot with the double spandex on the outer sleeve. The pads slid down my arm when I wore them over long sleeve base layers but stayed put when against my skin. There are POC logos made of grippy rubber on the top of the sleeve cuff and half of the bottom sleeve cuff to help with slippage but it only worked on my skin. After a number of washes the pads grew a bit so I would recommend buying them a size down. Normally I wear a large elbow but I chose the mediums and they fit well now. I like the absence of straps which tend to increase arm pump and fatigue. I had one crash to test them and they performed well: no pain, no cuts, no bruising. I did not realize I hit my elbow in the crash until I saw the mud on my jacket. The molded protector sticks out a bit much for my liking and I found them to be better carried up on long climbs - either strapped to my top tube or in my pack - than on my arms. They are pricy at $140 CAD.

POC VPD System Lite Elbows

Fox Enduro D30 Elbow Guards

These elbows showed up about two months into my test with the POCs and 7iDPs. When I put them on I was underwhelmed for a few reasons. The fit was big. I wear a large in Race Face, Dakine, POC and 7iDP but these larges were more like L/XLs. The sleeve, though light, cool and comfortable is too long, going all the way up to my arm pit. In addition, the pad has about an inch of side play which could be a problem in a crash - though I haven’t crashed in them…yet. Finally, these pads look like a piece of foam was stitched into a shirt sleeve (ya I know that is what they are but it really just looks like that). Other Fox pads like the Launch D30 and Launch Pro D30 as well as previously mentioned brands all have form-fitting, well-sculpted lines while these seem like the D30 pad was jammed into a pocket (well it actually is so that you can take out the D30 to wash the sleeves) and stitched tightly so you can see every line of the D30. It's not that big a deal but in combination with the other factors and compared to the 7iDPs and POCs these ones will probably only be used on days when the other two are wet, dank and stank.

Fox Enduro D3O elbows retail at $89.95 CAD.

Race Face Charge Elbow

These are low-pro pads that are perfect for stopping cuts and their associated dirt and bacteria from getting below the skin. They are definitely better than a shirt, jacket or bare skin and they will help with the minor stuff. But, these pads are not aimed at protecting you from big hits. The Race Face site describes them like this: Non impact rated foam panels covered with stretch material with flat lock stiching to keep you xc trail rides comfortably abrasion free.

Other than the typos, it sends the message that these 'bows are not going beyond abrasions and cut reduction." I like using these pads on days when I am doing trail building then riding down afterwards or when I am hitting trails that are less gnarly than my usual stuff (aka the grey, the dark and the Cypes in local terms). They are the best pads for comfort, breathability and stealth but on a Likert elbow scale, where bare skin is one and hard-shell elbows are 5, these would be a 2. The faint praise is that they are definitely better than nothing. I would prefer to wear these all the time but due to the aforementioned issues I need to bow down to the bigger bows most of the time.

RF Charge elbows retail at $44.99

Race Face Charge Elbows

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This Charge elbow is torn a bit to allow for easy on and off. I ordered the wrong size thinking I was a large but not looking at the sizing chart which shows I am XL. These worked well with the minor modification but ya it doesn't look great. I lost the other one on the trail somehow so I am half covered until I get another one.

Race Face Indy Elbow

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The best is last. I received these a few weeks ago and they are definitely the best despite being one size too small. That's right; the guns are too big for a size large... Or Race Face is just downsizing to make me feel better. These Ls are too small but XL would be perfect. I did however, perform some creative tailoring, cutting the straps off and slicing two V's in the upper arm sleeve to loosen them up. That made a big difference and now they slide on and off easily and still stay in place. I have yet to crash on them, or any of the pads in this review, but in terms of comfort and stealth these are the best pads in the group and the ones I reach for most. They do not go too high up the arm like the POCs, 7iDPs and Foxes which adds to the high comfort rating. The Indys provide full coverage of the elbow and half of the forearm without being bulky and feeling large. Despite the smaller size there is no arm pump, both before my modifications and afterwards.They are easy to launder with convenient D30 removal and installation.

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These pads are the winners.

Race Face Indys are $85 CAD


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Sebov
+2 Vik Banerjee Pete Roggeman
Sebov  - Oct. 22, 2020, 3:55 a.m.

Loving my RF Indy as well... or kind of. Had some stupid elbow crashes as well. In my case (not being a super hard smasher) the relatively thin Indys work well: protection for abrasion/open wounds. There are thicker options with better protetion but they do not stay in place because of the rattle on higher speeds and they are too bulky with less style. So I ended up wearing the Indys for 3 years now. Tightened to the top tube with my RF Ambush (big thumbs up for this awesome side effect of open of knee pads) these are the first elbow pads I wear on every ride.

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Sebov
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Sebov  - Oct. 22, 2020, 3:55 a.m.

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Vikb
+4 Pete Roggeman IslandLife Tjaard Breeuwer OldManBike
Vik Banerjee  - Oct. 22, 2020, 5:49 a.m.

I wear elbow pads every techy trail ride. If I wear knee pads I'll wear elbow pads. I know it's not cool, but I just can't compute that they aren't worth wearing based on the number of elbow injuries I see in my crew and on the trail. My favs at the moment are an old pair of 661 pads that I will need to find a replacement for soon.

I'm not a fan of sleeve style pads because they put pressure on my elbow that causes me issues longer term [personal thing not a pad design issue] so I wear pads with straps and a soft [3DO] or hard cup instead.

One tip I have to share is I buy my elbow pads one size too small and then stretch them out over a metal water bottle. They fit great and there is no more stretch as I wear them.

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Tbone
+1 Vik Banerjee
Trevor Hansen  - Oct. 22, 2020, 8:11 a.m.

Hey Vik how does that work differently than wearing them and stretching through use? I might have to try the bottle method.

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Vikb
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Vik Banerjee  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:39 a.m.

If you can wear them comfortably and stretch them out that way then that's fine. My experience has been that if I buy them small they are not comfortable out of the box [too tight] and I need to stretch them to the point I can wear them. 

Obviously this will depend on each combo of rider and pads so there's no one answer.

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IslandLife
+2 Vik Banerjee James Vasilyev
IslandLife  - Oct. 22, 2020, 8:46 a.m.

It's insane how many riders I see with torn up elbows.  And it comes from the top... how many top EWS racers do you see wearing elbow pads... none.  And for them elbow pads can literally be race or even career saving safety equipment.  Look at ALN.. she has access to these same awesome Racface pads and ended up tearing her elbow up in practice before Pietra Ligure.  And because of her injuries she couldn't even race!! Not even a broken elbow... just too banged up to race properly.  Flew half way around the world during a pandemic, quarantined, fell, hurt her elbow and ruined all the hard work she and her team had put in... crazy.

As for pads... I have these new raceface indy's and they are the best elbows I've used.  They are of the only brand of sleeve elbows (that aren't the bigger bulky variety) I've tried that I can race in because they can withstand extended periods of smashing without moving.  Others I've used in the past end up around my wrists by the end of the stage and so are useless.  IMO an upper strap is necessary with elbow pads.

EDIT: Also a quick note about Raceface customer service... my first set of pads had some of the stitching on the velcro that the strap attaches to come loose.  Emailed raceface with photos.  They said send em back and they'll send me new ones... had the new ones within the week.  I'm on the island, but great for Canadian west coasters that the raceface offices are in Burnaby and can offer quick turn-around for any issues.

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oldmanbike
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OldManBike  - Oct. 23, 2020, 6:56 a.m.

Intrigued by Vik's idea. I've had success with a different approach, buying the size that fits from the start and then, if they stretch, tightening the cuff by pinching out the excess and sewing it together. Free, fairly easy, and it works.

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munkiemagik
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munkiemagik  - Nov. 22, 2020, 5 p.m.

I had to register on NSMB just so I can specifically reply to this comment, lol

Based off this article I want to order the Indys. They are sitting in my basket and I am itching to hit buy. 

You suggest to size down and stretch them out.

I am 12inch bicep arm relaxed and 13 inch when tensed. which puts me in a size L (11.5-12.5) I guess. But would you still recommend me to size down and stretch out a M(10.5-11.5) or just stick with the L. The dimensions are pulled from RaceFace sizing guide directly.

Thanks

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craw
+2 IslandLife Mark
Cr4w  - Oct. 22, 2020, 7:59 a.m.

I totally agree. I think it's especially insane how little protection many people are wearing. The bro brah look of sneakers with minimal socks, fancy shorts, tank top, fancy helmet and gloves I think totally shocking. Especially considering how nasty an elbow wound can be at bike park speeds.

POC makes some nice minimal elbow protection too.

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DanL
+2 IslandLife Vik Banerjee
DanL  - Oct. 22, 2020, 8:18 a.m.

I asked several internet mtb groups about why no elbow pads and it all came down to the weirdest of replies "I can always walk out if I break my elbow" and "knee injuries are worse" etc

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Kevin26
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Kevin26  - Oct. 22, 2020, 8:43 a.m.

The consensus I get is; not cool look,  and vast majority of them are really uncomfortable. 

I've got skinny arms so unless they're tightened like a blood pressure cuff (and most of them don't have straps that will tighten them properly anyway) all elbow pads become wrist guards on a rough downhill.

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IslandLife
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IslandLife  - Oct. 22, 2020, 8:48 a.m.

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Mammal  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:28 a.m.

This is my issue. With relatively skinny arms, I've never found something the the right combo of stays-in-place, and not-super-bulky. Knee pads aren't a problem in the same way.

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Merwinn  - Oct. 22, 2020, 8:57 a.m.

"I can always walk out if I break my elbow" LOL!

A friend dislocated her elbow on a slow speed OTB and was in enough shock afterwards she could barely stand, let alone safely walk down the trail supported by two others. BTW, she's an XC machine and no wuss.

Anyone who assumes they can "just walk out", has a questionable knowledge of reality, first aid and what the body goes through after a serious enough accident.

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craw
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Cr4w  - Oct. 22, 2020, 10:03 a.m.

I was at the clinic in Whistler (for an unrelated injury!) and a dude in his tank top with hamburger for elbows said "you crash once at the beginning and they stay wet all season". The nurse just shook her head and proceeded to scour the wound to get all the rocks out. 

If you're a committed park rider it's insane to me that you'd subject yourself to endless flesh wounds for some arbitrary bro-brah aesthetic. Spend $600 on a carbon helmet but live with a preventable open wound all year long?

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LoamtoHome
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Jerry Willows  - Oct. 22, 2020, 8:51 a.m.

I find I get increased arm pump with elbow pads and restricts movement.  I'd be game for them in the bike park for sure.  North Shore is pretty slow speed.

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Tbone
+1 IslandLife
Trevor Hansen  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9 a.m.

Slow speed - I like that Rigs. You just wanna have that Dumpsters bare knuckles and elbows look dialled and you know it.

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DanL
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DanL  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:04 a.m.

This is a great review btw, thanks Trevor.

I also pack a POC spine vest with built in elbow pads for any rides that I'm really exposed. It's interesting to see where the limit sits for a lot of people compared to the being-scared-to-look-like-a-joey effect.

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xy9ine
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Perry Schebel  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:48 a.m.

DO NOT DOWNPLAY THE IMPORTANCE OF DUMPSTER FASHION

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Tbone
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Trevor Hansen  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:50 a.m.

No downplay here- up play all the way

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LoamtoHome
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Jerry Willows  - Oct. 23, 2020, 9:08 a.m.

Dumbsters is life!

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Andeh
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Andeh  - Oct. 22, 2020, 2:55 p.m.

Are you referring to the POC "Joint VPD Air"?  Those look they might do the trick.

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andy-eunson
+3 Cam McRae JVP Tjaard Breeuwer
Andy Eunson  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:13 a.m.

I rarely wear elbow pads because getting a good fit has been hard. Every pair I have slip down while riding. Until I tried some G Form (Force?) they don’t move at all. I don’t know how they stack up in terms of protection against other pads though. But when I remember I do wear these. I should get into the habit more.

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DanL
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DanL  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:33 a.m.

I always wore G-Form on my elbows when I was skateboarding - fantastic fit and lightweight - but they weren't great for abrasion or sliding along things so I never used them for my knees. The new e-line looks like it might be a great upgrade to them and if the fit and feel remains similar then I could be sold.

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JVP
+1 Andy Eunson
JVP  - Oct. 22, 2020, 10:51 a.m.

Same here, elbow pads just don't work. I've owned 6 or 7 elbow pads over the years, and the only ones that didn't slip down were the massive OG roach pads that would bottom out on your wrists. Even then they'd leave the tops a little too exposed with my long arms. There's probably some out there that work, but I've long since given up.

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IslandLife
+2 Andy Eunson JVP
IslandLife  - Oct. 22, 2020, 12:33 p.m.

I used to have the same problem... previous elbows couldn't last a full enduro stage of hammering... always ended up on my wrists.

Then I bought the same raceface indy's he tests here.  Not only does the strap make them wayy better, but it seems like they took the time to cut and sew the sleeve so that it fits your arm/elbow much better.  These don't move and are the most comfortable I've used.

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denomerdano
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Deniz Merdano  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:29 a.m.

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denomerdano
+2 AJ Barlas Andrew Major Andy Eunson IslandLife
Deniz Merdano  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:30 a.m.

A buddy told me the other day his fox elbow pads slid out of the way on an unassuming crash leaving him with a torn up elbow.

Another buddy got into a horrific car accident in rural Turkey years ago and got thrown out of his car because he wasn't buckled in, which saved his very life. You couldn't make him wear seatbelts after that. Ever!

These kind of pivotal decisions of safety equipment usually is accompanied by anectodal experience... 

I'm all for safety gear and preservation of body for the long haul, but as J Wilson says, " I crash hard every time I wear a fullface helmet"

I am however a fan of long sleeve jerseys and pants with kneepads under. Elbow pads will be a case by case decision for me once I find a pair that fit well..

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Tbone
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Trevor Hansen  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:51 a.m.

Ah deep thoughts with J Wilson

https://youtu.be/qcEoF-foaa8

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Brad Sedola  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:43 a.m.

A timely article.

I bailed fuckign around in town on pavement back in August. Went to the ER, where after giving me the pat down/joint squeeze assessment, the doctor sent me on my way with the prescribed 'you'll be wanting to take a high dose of anti-inflamatories for the next few weeks' and 'if it hurts, don't do it'. Easy enough. After 3 weeks, swelling and colors subsiding, I couldn't quite straighten my right arm. Turns out, if he had done x-rays, they could have fixed a fractured  radial head. I couldn't imagine what the outcome would have been if I had not been wearing pads. They are older Race Face jobbers with the D30 in them, but they certainly did the job. That injury, and the accompanying 2 sprained wrists have kept me off the bike since.

I got a gravel bike on its way. I'm thinking I may be able to find a comfy hand position on drop bars since anything remotely flat is just too sore at this point. At least I'll be spinning wheels again.

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Brad Sedola  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:43 a.m.

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Vikb
+2 Velocipedestrian Tjaard Breeuwer
Vik Banerjee  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:43 a.m.

I've definitely had elbow pads that fit poorly, but there are so many options out there that it has not been an issue to find a pair that fit well. As I get smarter in my old age I've learned that once I find a great pair of pads [elbow or knee] I should buy a second pair so I can avoid having to go through the whole process again when the first pair wear out and the same brand/model is not available.

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Pnwpedal
+1 Velocipedestrian
Pnwpedal  - Oct. 22, 2020, 9:56 a.m.

If I'm riding at speed on trails that require my enduro sled, I'm wearing a full face, knees, elbows, and gloves. Don't care what anyone thinks, at this point in life my goal is to ride at a solid 80-90% of my capabilities and go home happy at the end of the day. My pads of choice are IXS Carve Evo+ and I recommend them wholeheartedly.

Also, the NSX7 clip was a fun flashback to see. The Banshee Scream made me smile.

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mammal
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Mammal  - Oct. 22, 2020, 11:41 a.m.

Those are the Carve elbow pads you're referring to ? I've got the IXS Flow Zip knee pads, and I absolutely love them. If the elbow guards work as well, I may need to track down a pair. I've got fairly skinny arms, but the dual straps probably help

I love the Flow Zip knees, as they are super comfy, always stay in place, and I can put them on without removing any footwear.

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Pnwpedal
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Pnwpedal  - Oct. 22, 2020, 12:57 p.m.

Yep, IXS Carve Evo+ knees and elbows. A little buklier than the Flow pads, but the coverage and protection is nice. They stay in place and I don't notice them at all when riding.

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Andeh
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Andeh  - Oct. 22, 2020, 10:24 a.m.

I get that logically it makes sense to wear elbow pads, but I can't find any that fit well.  I've got decently sized forearms leftover from when I used to rock climb, and just average biceps.  So any pad that's big enough for the forearm (to not cause pump) is loose and slides around the top.  And anything snug on the top cuts off circulation on my forearms.  When I tried my last pair (the same 7iDP Sam Hills reviewed here), I exchanged emails with the company first, and the CS rep suggested sizing up, and admitted to me that he couldn't wear them either for the same issue I had.

Luckily for me, there's not a lot of rocks where I live, so if I'm going to push myself, I can always wear a long sleeve which will at least keep the dirt out of any scuffs.

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Tbone
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Trevor Hansen  - Oct. 22, 2020, 10:28 a.m.

You could try the reverse of my Indy tailoring: keep strap for bicep and cut small V’s in forearm band. A bit ghetto but effective

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Tjaardbreeuwer
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Tjaard Breeuwer  - Oct. 23, 2020, 6:38 a.m.

I have a similar arm shape.

I have Dainese Trailskins (II?) they are wider in the upper forearm, and have minimal strap at too and bottom, with a gap in the material, so it doesn’t bunch he tightened upper end, and no need for V sniping at the lower end.

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James Vasilyev  - Oct. 22, 2020, 1:45 p.m.

great article. i simply can't justify the injuries my bony elbows endure from crashing anymore. too long to heal, too much pain. and i haven't even had one of those real gross ones, hope i never do. i went through a couple and have landed on the RF Ambush pads and find them quite comfortable. i'm only 1 of 3 guys in our gang who wears them, they seem a very rare bit of PPE these days. i won't wear them for mellow rides, but if i'm going up to go down and want to ride aggressively, the elbows come out.

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shrockie
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Shrockie  - Oct. 22, 2020, 2:41 p.m.

Good round up. I understand you can't test everything out there, but the Leatt airflex pro are amazing. Light, breathable and they stay in place. I forget I have them on. 

https://leatt.com/us/shop/moto/protection/elbow-guards/elbow-guard-airflex-sku-5020004320-W?selected-color=5440

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Tbone
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Trevor Hansen  - Oct. 22, 2020, 2:52 p.m.

Jon liked his 6 years ago: https://nsmb.com/articles/leatt-airflex-knee-elbow-pads/ 

They do look good and Andrew did praise the Airflex pro knees :

https://nsmb.com/articles/leatt-airflex-pro-v-your-best-non-newtonian-knee-warmers/

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skooks
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Skooks  - Oct. 22, 2020, 3:02 p.m.

My elbows are just as exposed as my knees, and I always wear knee pads, so it makes sense to me to wear elbow pads as well. I have been running the RF Indy elbow pads for the last 5 years and they work great for me.  They fit well and stay in place (sizing is on the small side as Trevor mentioned). Very unobtrusive, and they offer enough protection. I haven't injured my elbows while wearing them, but I certainly have when not wearing them!

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cyclotoine
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cyclotoine  - Oct. 23, 2020, 9:02 a.m.

I’ll be 40 next year and have 2 very young kids. If I get hurt my partner has to shoulder extra child care. I’ve been wearing elbow pads on most rides for a few years and on the gnarlier stuff adding shin guards. I also wear 661 protective shorts and they have saved my hips/pelvis more than once. This year I’ve added upper body protection and a full face for gnarlier stuff. So thanks for the review. I’ve been using the TLD speed elbows which I had to stitch narrower at the top to stay on my scrawny arms but aside from that they’ve held up still. Still I’m looking to replace them soon and will likely get the 7iDP. Appreciate the review.

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Jamesybear
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Jamesybear  - Oct. 25, 2020, 1:01 a.m.

I’ve been using the 7idp transition arm pads for a few years now, similar to the Sam Hill pads and they are been great, no issues and stay in place. Highly recommend 7idp gear.

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XXX_er
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XXX_er  - Oct. 29, 2020, 7:59 a.m.

even if you don't fall there are always trees to bounce off, I still got a set of 661 2x4's  for wrist to above elbow protection, the lycra sleeve & straps keep them in place, 661 axo dualies for when my foot gets caught between a rock & a hard place

"The bro brah look of sneakers with minimal socks,"

now days I just give credit to any kid who grew up & was smart enough to finally  do up the laces

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