that last cartoon nails it.
Electric Vehicle (EV) discussion thread
Posted by: Hepcat
Posted by: XXX_er
i think one should look 3 years down the road and ask themselves whom will have their shit together at that point ?
Other than my local Ford whom has announced an E truck I can't see anybody with a dealer structure to support a new EV truck all across Canada in 300 small towns ?
and there needs to be more charging infrastructure
I have no experience driving an electric car, but I wonder how many charging stations it really takes for a long trip?
I mean Kamloops is about the furthest I drive when I'm home in Van. 400km (250 miles), takes 5-6 hours straight one shot. Pretty much any EV can make that. Just charge up on the 110v at your buddy's house at the destination? Give them some compensation for cranking up the electric bill a bit. Is it that simple?
well I think it takes > than over-night to charge a vehicle with a 110V, so you need a netwerk of fast chargers which means people will have to wait however long a fast charger takes on long trips
You can get to Terrace or Prince Rupert with an EV but I don't think you can go north
Holy shit some people's road trips are more epic than others. Yukon ho!
Ah, you're right I see the more econo EV's don't have that kind of range. I see some hit 400 mi (650km) though, wow. That's further than my current combustion engine car can go.
Looks like average EV range is currently over 250 mi (400km), not bad. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2021/01/08/new-us-electric-vehicles-now-have-250-mile-median-driving-range/amp/
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Posted by: Hepcat
Holy shit some people's road trips are more epic than others. Yukon ho!
Ah, you're right I see the more econo EV's don't have that kind of range. I see some hit 400 mi (650km) though, wow. That's further than my current combustion engine car can go.
Looks like average EV range is currently over 250 mi (400km), not bad. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2021/01/08/new-us-electric-vehicles-now-have-250-mile-median-driving-range/amp/
90 % of Canadians live within 100miles of the 49th parallel but then you got that other 10% so if you are going to eliminate burning fossil fuels there needs to be more recharging stations
Posted by: XXX_er
Posted by: Hepcat
Holy shit some people's road trips are more epic than others. Yukon ho!
Ah, you're right I see the more econo EV's don't have that kind of range. I see some hit 400 mi (650km) though, wow. That's further than my current combustion engine car can go.
Looks like average EV range is currently over 250 mi (400km), not bad. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2021/01/08/new-us-electric-vehicles-now-have-250-mile-median-driving-range/amp/
90 % of Canadians live within 100miles of the 49th parallel but then you got that other 10% so if you are going to eliminate burning fossil fuels there needs to be more recharging stations
Nothing between here and whitehorse...you could put one at bell2 or dease, but it would be diesel powered...lol
Posted by: three-sheets
Posted by: XXX_er
Posted by: Hepcat
Holy shit some people's road trips are more epic than others. Yukon ho!
Ah, you're right I see the more econo EV's don't have that kind of range. I see some hit 400 mi (650km) though, wow. That's further than my current combustion engine car can go.
Looks like average EV range is currently over 250 mi (400km), not bad. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2021/01/08/new-us-electric-vehicles-now-have-250-mile-median-driving-range/amp/
90 % of Canadians live within 100miles of the 49th parallel but then you got that other 10% so if you are going to eliminate burning fossil fuels there needs to be more recharging stations
Nothing between here and whitehorse...you could put one at bell2 or dease, but it would be diesel powered...lol
Diesel powered charge point turns out to be....still more efficient than most diesel powered cars. Someone want to do the math vs the average Canadian gas car/SUV that might make the trip?
Posted by: earleb
Posted by: three-sheets
Posted by: XXX_er
Posted by: Hepcat
Holy shit some people's road trips are more epic than others. Yukon ho!
Ah, you're right I see the more econo EV's don't have that kind of range. I see some hit 400 mi (650km) though, wow. That's further than my current combustion engine car can go.
Looks like average EV range is currently over 250 mi (400km), not bad. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2021/01/08/new-us-electric-vehicles-now-have-250-mile-median-driving-range/amp/
90 % of Canadians live within 100miles of the 49th parallel but then you got that other 10% so if you are going to eliminate burning fossil fuels there needs to be more recharging stations
Nothing between here and whitehorse...you could put one at bell2 or dease, but it would be diesel powered...lol
Diesel powered charge point turns out to be....still more efficient than most diesel powered cars. Someone want to do the math vs the average Canadian gas car/SUV that might make the trip?
That is mildly impressive, but theyre only getting 2-2.5 hour drive time on flat summertime highway.....getting closer .
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Well, they did once name Hitler man of the year, so there's that.
Posted by: XXX_er
Posted by: Hepcat
Holy shit some people's road trips are more epic than others. Yukon ho!
Ah, you're right I see the more econo EV's don't have that kind of range. I see some hit 400 mi (650km) though, wow. That's further than my current combustion engine car can go.
Looks like average EV range is currently over 250 mi (400km), not bad. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2021/01/08/new-us-electric-vehicles-now-have-250-mile-median-driving-range/amp/
90 % of Canadians live within 100miles of the 49th parallel but then you got that other 10% so if you are going to eliminate burning fossil fuels there needs to be more recharging stations
Every place in the world with an electrical connection is a charging station.
You do realize that you can charge from any wall outlet ... right?
Posted by: KenN
Every place in the world with an electrical connection is a charging station.
You do realize that you can charge from any wall outlet ... right?
Yeah in 10-12 hrs for cars with larger batteries requiring a full charge.
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: KenN
Every place in the world with an electrical connection is a charging station.
You do realize that you can charge from any wall outlet ... right?
Yeah in 10-12 hrs for cars with larger batteries requiring a full charge.
That isnt close to the numbers I have seen provided. A 100kWh battery would take up to 4 days to charge on a level 1 (120V) plug (assuming you are going from empty to full). You are basically getting 2-4 miles of range per hour of charging.
Last edited by: shoreboy on Dec. 13, 2021, 1:14 p.m., edited 2 times in total.
Posted by: shoreboy
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: KenN
Every place in the world with an electrical connection is a charging station.
You do realize that you can charge from any wall outlet ... right?
Yeah in 10-12 hrs for cars with larger batteries requiring a full charge.
That isnt close to the numbers I have seen provided. A 100kWh battery would take up to 4 days to charge on a level 1 (120V) plug (assuming you are going from empty to full). You are basically getting 2-4 miles of range per hour of charging.
what stops you from installing a proper home charger?
Posted by: Sethimus
Posted by: shoreboy
Posted by: syncro
Posted by: KenN
Every place in the world with an electrical connection is a charging station.
You do realize that you can charge from any wall outlet ... right?
Yeah in 10-12 hrs for cars with larger batteries requiring a full charge.
That isnt close to the numbers I have seen provided. A 100kWh battery would take up to 4 days to charge on a level 1 (120V) plug (assuming you are going from empty to full). You are basically getting 2-4 miles of range per hour of charging.
what stops you from installing a proper home charger?
I would expect the price would be a barrier to some? Im not sure of the exact costs, but Ive heard the number of $2000 being used as an average sort of price.
If I owned an EV, I would be installing a level 2 charger no doubt and would consider it part of the cost of entry. Using the argument that 'you can charge from any wall outlet' while true, is not feasible for most people if they daily drive their vehicle.
Last edited by: shoreboy on Dec. 13, 2021, 2:31 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
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