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Kinda surprised to see this much praise for a 10k/10k fabric. I've have thought they would be a sweaty soup inside when riding in slightly warmer conditions.

" Asymmetrical rims create more equal spoke tension, which results in a stronger wheel and the use of externally reinforced spoke holes helps ensure accurate drilling."

Say what? Accuracy of drilling a hole would be due to their equipment and jigs, not due to extra material around where you plan to drill. Just saying. 

"SCB developed a layup that includes what they say is one of the thicker rim beads on the market; each bead is up to one-millimetre thicker. "

Why not measure it? And compare it to every other rim you can get your hands on? Didn't the Crankbrothers wheels just claim to be the widest bead on the market? Would be nice to see reviews actually do some digging into the claims thrown around.

Let's also talk about real manufactures defect warranty vs you broke your stuff and think it's somehow the manufactures fault. 

All too often I don't think people really understand what a warranty is and covers vs something like a crash replacement policy.

Does anyone actually buy Roval or Bontrager or Santa Cruz or Ibis wheels aftermarket? 

In my mind they are in-house brands to be spec'd on their own bikes and not much more.

Disappointed not to see any Santa comments in here. 

Joe's original home builds he posted in a Pinkbike forum where the motivation for me to build my first full suspension frame. 

Skinny steel tubes ftw.

It needs a special designation. I agree it's not a full blown motorcycle, but it's also not a regular bike. 

There are many current trail systems that are only open to mountain biking because of a non-motorized designation. 

Each trail network should be evaluated on a case by case basis.

Motorized bicycle. Let's start with calling it what it is.

Another nother vote for ditch the disposable C02.

If they wait that long there will be many many more nails in their coffin for the trail bike market. They need a GXeagle competitor like 12 months ago. Waiting to open up the freehub and waiting to trickle down to XT and SLX will not help them.

Boom.

Turn the handlebars around backwards to fit the mega LONG bike on the rack. Someone posted a pick somewhere on social media of their new Sick hardtail and the only way they got it to fit the rack was to spin around the bars.  Not sure if that will work on a NSR, mine is out on loan so I can't test it.

Regarding "it's coming" yes longer is coming, but the mainstream brands are still going to be slow in getting there. The thing to find out is when is too long too long?

Fuck Vail. It's probably also fucking Vail's fault that all my Woocommerce uploads were fucked today and even if it was sunshine and unicorns tomorrow with #alltimefalltime conditions I can't now go ride. Cross fingers for some warmth tomorrow and good conditions Friday and I am able to get away from work.

Can we get an end of day update? 

Spouse and I were going to head up tomorrow, finally two kiddos in full time daycare and life settled to a point to snag a mid-week day. All was running smooth till old man winter decided to drop some snow early.

Electric cargo bike with your regular mountain bike attached to the back.

The bonus will be that you use the electric cargo bike to commute to work, go grocery shopping, to go grab a beer, and run errands. 

Depending on how much you rely on the electric motor on the cargo bike you would likely end up in better shape as you're on the bike a whole lot more.

https://nsmba.ca/amtb-trail-project/

A loop on Seymour. 

Psted by: norona

Do more research 630 w is the watt hr of the battery, bikes are sitting now at 500 watt hrs meaning at 250 watts you will go 2 hrs on the flat at ful power, that new hiabike is at 630 watt hrs giving u more range not power, as is what I stated earlier. You can already buy a back up water bottle battery and add it that is another 500 watt hours giving u 1000 watt hours on the battery, this doe not give u more power but more range. This is where I are getting confused. 

In the alps the most guarded mountain range in the world that see the most usership ebikes have taken off and is where the pedltec has been created. 

For this first time this season ebikes mountain bike sales have surpassed legacy bike sales, and ebikes of all kinds now make up over 70% of sales there. 

Sorry , don t hate the messenger, they are coming! And when you are currently usIng legalities, I would like to ask you, have you ever ridden an illegally built trail, do you currently ride and illegally built trail, and have you ever ridden in garibaldi, manning park or other areas that say no to bikes. I doubt anyone on this forum who rides a lot or for a long time can say no to the above, and many others don’t even know if they have since they really don’t know, don’t ask or care.

My bad, Haibike didn't even bother to release any Rated Power W numbers in the initial press on that bike. The reason it initially caught my eye was that stunning 120 Nm of torque and I mistakenly quoted the wh of the battery. 

https://www.tq-e-mobility.com/en/TQ-HPR-120S/Technical-Specifications

Looking at the specs of the available MOTOR units from TQ it looks like no matter what claimed W they put on the Rated Power your still getting that 120 Nm. 

Having ridden or not ridden illegal trails has no bearing on the subject. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

For the record, I am not against e-bikes. I want to see them regulated as their own category and permitted or not permitted on different trail networks on a case by case basis. Fromme and Seymour are not the best spots for them in my opinion as they are too connected to an urban environment. There is too much grey between a 250w rated pedelec and a 1600w throttle bike that trying to regulate them on these urban interface type trail networks would be impossible.

Posted by: norona

Worca is doing the same in this case, there is no legislation on ebike currently so nothing can be enforced!

There is policy for RecSitesTrails BC that manage crown land. It's not been released yet but it's official legal policy on e-bikes on crown land. You mentioned in another post talking to Alister...I'd say you talk to him again and ask about the yet to be publicly  released policy. I am going to go out on a limb and guess that WORCA is functioning within that new policy in stating that the Sproat alpine network is non-motorized and excluded e-bikes.

Any claims of "only 250w" is hogwash. 

http://www.ebikes.ca/learn/power-ratings.html

https://ebike-mtb.com/en/all-2019-haibike-flyon-models-with-tq-motor-at-a-glance/

630w with 120nm of torque. The motor in this can be had with the same "250w" claim on it, yet still rated to 120nm of torque, or with a claim of 920w.

So now loop back to that top link...claimed outputs are kinda meaningless and all motors put out more than the claim. The "speed limited" is all software. 

Go have a good about de-restricting the e-bikes. Options available for most all models. Now Dave is going to chime in saying "that's breaking the law", yep breaking the law. Why isn't this an issue when someone want to put a turbo on their mountain sled? Or pipes on their woods moto? Well it's because these are understood to be motorized and you can do whatever you want to make that motor more powerful. The ONLY reason laws exist on an electric bicycle is a stop gap to attempt to allow them to play nice with human power bicycles and integrate with human powered bicycles. 

It's motorized and thus should be treated separate from non-motorized bicycles. Once we're all in agreement here then we can look at what trail networks should or shouldn't allow this new class of electric motorized bicycle.

Some questions for Dave. 

Does it have a motor? Yes or No? 

Is it an electric motorized bicycle? Yes or No? 

Are you advocating for trails currently designated as non-motorized to have their designation changed to include motorized vehicles? 

The size of the motor or how it's applied is irrelevant. Motorized yes or no. 

Allowing the debate to be clouded with talk of cardio, fitness, bullying and weight is obfuscating the core of the issue. Are they motorized and should current trail networks that are not clearly designated mixed use allow motorized.

Sweet, all it takes is a new e-bike and we can all ride Trespasser just like Yo. If you buy two of them will one be able to ride twice as good?