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REVIEW

Light And Motion Seca Comp 2000 & Vis Pro 1000 Trail

Words Andrew Major
Photos Andrew Major
Date Oct 30, 2020
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The System Killer

I've been regularly night riding since long before I had to.That is before I had a family and riding at night became a matter of fitting in my fix. I've owned a number of top-end systems, including some from Light And Motion, and ridden some interesting exotic systems. I love to ride janky North Shore trails in the dark, particularly Fromme trails like Pipeline and Lower Crippler, and my friends Andy and Chris have been known to cajole me into night time adventures down much harder Fromme-fair outside of my after-hours comfort-zone.

I ride often enough at night to justify investing in good lights that will be reliable in all weather conditions, maintain their max brightness over sustained riding, and give me years of hard use and the trails I'm riding are technical enough to warranty packing a lot of lumens into the woods.

This is a review of two lights made by Light And Motion, which has been one of the most established and appreciated bike light brands since 1995. The Vis Pro 1000 is good. The Seca Comp 2000 is a beauty. Both are nice pieces that I've been happily riding in weather both fierce and friendly. It's an all-in-one 'System Killer' handlebar-light that I recommend to anyone and everyone.

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I've run the Vis Pro 1000 Trail on my bar and on my lid. The Seca 2000 Comp I have mainly run as a bar lamp.

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Everything looks jankier, more raw, primeval at night.

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That's 1000 lumens of spot on the lid and 2000 lumens of spot that floods more forest on my handlebars.

Vis Pro 1000 Trail

Light And Motion's Vis Pro 1000 Trail light's spot beam delivers a very usable 1000 lumens of light for 1.5 hours and passes my basic requirement for a helmet light in that it uses a GoPro mount. It's also fairly feathery for an all-in-one system at just over 120-grams. I like it. I have lots of hours riding it. I have recommended it to a few friends. It's a great little lamp.

For my purposes, the Vis Pro is a solid product with comparables. It runs for 30 minutes longer than the Blackburn Dayblazer on the highest setting and throws a similar amount of light for an extra 40 USD. It shaves about 65-grams off the Bontrager Ion Pro albeit delivering a bit less brightness over the same 90 minutes of riding for a 10 USD premium - 135 USD for the Vis Pro versus 125 USD for the Ion Pro.

I prefer the cosmetics of the Dayblazer but think that appearance aside, the Ion Pro delivers the best punch-per-dollar on a danky-janky night ride. I'm okay with the Vis Pro in use and the quality of manufacturing has a more premium fit-and-finish than either of the other light sets.

Light And Motion has a great reputation for quality manufacturing and after-sale support so there is a lot to like about this system aside from its manners on the trail. I'd love to see a bigger version of the Vis Pro that throws more light for the same run time without packing on the grams like the Seca Comp so it would remain head-mount friendly.

It's not the min-max winner. Bontrager puts out more juice for less money. Blackburn is 30-minutes shy on the runtime of being a category darling but still manages to put out a similar amount of light for less money using the same almost universal mounting system.

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The Vis Pro 1000 Trail is a premium looking package that's very nice to use and has a good strap mount for handlebar use.

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On my lid, Light And Motion sells a GoPro camera-mount-adapter that clips on cleanly and interfaces with any GoPro-compatible mount on the market.

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You can turn off the little commuter lights on each side of the lamp, but I like having the outboard one on when I'm in traffic. Easy electrical tape fix.

Seca Comp 2000

This thing is the system killer. No extension cable to wreck, no separate battery to misplace. I, for one, hail our compact-light-lords! We've been above freezing, but still fairly crisp, and runtime is as advertised on this light set.

I have not used any light setup to date that would convince me to spend more. This has an intense spot beam with a healthy amount of diffusion, so I can see the whole trail. On slow techy North-Shore night rides the system stays bright even with no rain-cooling and limited airflow. The light colour is warm enough for saturated slop and the output is as bright as I need all for 230 USD.

I'd love for the Seca Comp, nee Taz, 2000 to be cheaper, lighter, and have twice the run time on full-blast. And how about a COVID vaccine for Christmas when we're at it!? When it comes to actual potential upgrades, I would prefer the base to be GoPro compatible as original equipment. I really like the universality of the rubber-strap mount for handlebar use. I also mount it on the fork of my cargo bike for commuting. If Light And Motion sold GoPro compatible rubber straps separately I'm sure they would be a popular upgrade for all compatible camera systems. I missed it, thanks anopsa, but L&M does offer a Seca Comp GoPro mount for 10 USD.

In the name of science, I bolted on the mount from another system so I could try it. It was okay at best. Heavy on my head but livable. The Seca Comp 2000 works very well on my bar so I've gone back to running it there but certainly, if there was a solid helmet mount interface I'd strap this to the side of my Project 23 full-face and never look back. It's a lot heavier than other lights I've been using on my lid, but mounted off the chin bar that doesn't seem to be an issue.

I really don't like extension cables and all the issues I've had with them. It started as a helmet thing and I'll never go back to having a separate battery and cord for lights on my lid. I've never much minded the extra collection of bits and bobbles for my helmet mount but now that the potential for high-powered self-contained light sets is so apparent to me, thanks to the Seca Comp, I'm done with extension cables and expensive separated systems for all applications.

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The rubber strap mount works great. Even on weird handlebar or stem shapes but I wish it was attached via a GoPro base for easy accessorizing.

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It's not just bright, the Seca 2000 Comp keeps the juice on high for longer than lots of other systems that get hot.

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Is it too heavy for helmet duty? If there was a good way to attach it I would absolutely give it another try.

It's virtually impossible to go wrong with Light And Motion for your night riding investment. I think they're delivering some fantastic value in a triumvirate of quality, brightness, and usability. Tops on that charge for after-dark excellence is the Seca Comp 2000. Why pay twice as much for an extension cord and some fancy waterproof plugs? That's just looking at L&M's other options! The Seca Comp 2000 has a great combination of miss-nothing floodlighting and go-there spotlighting for any application.

I can make a few different min-max arguments for what light is best combined with the Seca Comp on the handlebars but suffice it to say that keeping it in the family results in a good experience with the Vis Pro 1000 Trail System. It just doesn't have a best-in-show value lock like the Seca.

Light And Motion's future systems will likely we'll continue with full line of lighter weight, longer running, GoPro mount lights in the Taz/Seca Comp tradition. In the meantime, combined with the Vis Pro at 135 USD or with another helmet-mounted system, at 230 USD, the Seca Comp 2000 is the best lighting package I've come across.

Self-contained lumens for the win.

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anospa
+1 Andrew Major
anospa  - Oct. 30, 2020, 7:03 a.m.

As a heads up, they do make a gopro adapter for the seca.

I just got the seca comp 1500 but have not put it on my helmet yet (have a 1200 niterider that is a lot lighter weight). I like having the wide beam flood on the bars from the seca, but would gladly take another one and put it on my helmet!

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Oct. 30, 2020, 7:17 a.m.

That’s great info. I didn’t come across it in my search but here’s the link for anyone thinking about using the Taz/Seca Comp as a helmet light.

The system is pretty heavy but I would run it on my helmet. Updated the piece - thank you.

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morgan-heater
+1 Andrew Major
Morgan Heater  - Oct. 30, 2020, 11:57 a.m.

What's a good go-pro style mount that can strap to your helmet if your helmet doesn't come with one?

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Oct. 30, 2020, 12:55 p.m.

I usually use the stick on GoPro mounts; however one of my lids it’s not an option - for that helmet I use the Bontrager strap on mount. It works well for the money.

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fartymarty
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fartymarty  - Oct. 31, 2020, 1:17 a.m.

I use https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/392060853845

on my Lezyne 1800 on my Super 3.

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Ddean
+2 Andrew Major Todd Hellinga
Ddean  - Oct. 30, 2020, 12:14 p.m.

Agree that the gopro mounted light on the helmet is a must these days! Morgan, gopro mounts stick on - no straps to worry about!

Personally, I feel that the security of a cabled helmet battery is helpful as you can carry a spare and worry less about rationing power. That said, the cord is a pain sometimes.  I would also worry that you have to decrease battery size so much for it to be tolerable to carry the battery on the helmet. The cable allows you to put the battery in your pack.

I ride with the Outbound Ultimate DH kit myself. 

BTW - if you wait for blackfriday, a bunch of the manufacturers are likely to have deals on lights.

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Oct. 30, 2020, 1:15 p.m.

Apparently I’m the only person who regularly wrecks extension cables, but either way I’m totally done with the classic battery, cord, lamp setup. Only negative of the all-in-one is weight and running off the chin bar it’s much less notable.

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morgan-heater
+1 Andrew Major
Morgan Heater  - Nov. 2, 2020, 9:35 a.m.

I agree it's annoying, but I really like my super bright super long lasting light to be on my head. I route the cord through the goggle strap holding band on the back of my helmet, down the inside of my shirt (on the back) and keep the battery in my manny-pack. Works pretty well.

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fartymarty
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fartymarty  - Oct. 31, 2020, 1:23 a.m.

Ddean, the other advantage of a corded system is you don't have to go hunting for your light when it gets knocked off in a crash.

It's quite eiery at first when you crash, light gets knocked off and it's pitch black but kind cool once you get used to figuring where your light and bike are.

Good call on Black Fri.  Hopefully there be some deals to be had.

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FlipFantasia
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Todd Hellinga  - Nov. 2, 2020, 9:35 a.m.

I just received my Outbound DH package Friday morning and finished charging it on the drive down to the Cove for buddies annual Devil's Night ride...The Hangover 100g self contained helmet light that still had juice left after a couple hours of gnarly shore riding, awesome! The trail bar mount light was incredible too. Amazing being able to pretty much hang with locals on trails like coiler and boogieman, that I've barely ridden before. Incredible system. Very much looking forward to getting more time with it in the coming weeks.

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xy9ine
+1 Andrew Major
Perry Schebel  - Nov. 2, 2020, 10:09 a.m.

was just checking out the outbound lights; looks impressive.

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Nov. 2, 2020, 7:02 p.m.

Yeah, they look good.

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xy9ine
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Perry Schebel  - Nov. 3, 2020, 2:29 p.m.

and they've got an all in one bar mount coming out soon. may have to wait & see prior to pulling the trigger.

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Andeh
+1 Andrew Major
Andeh  - Oct. 30, 2020, 12:55 p.m.

The Taz / Seca is a great bar light, but it's too heavy for helmet use.  I found it gives quite the bobble-head feeling, especially if mounted up top.  I found not only did I have to wear my full face (prefer half lid since I'm only riding at 75% at night), but I had to wear goggles to help stabilize it.  My Taz 2000 stays on my bars now, and an Outbound Lighting Hangover goes up top.  That weighs literally half as much as a Taz 1200, and the shape of it is much lower profile as well (further helps with the bobble-head feeling).

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Oct. 30, 2020, 1:13 p.m.

I wouldn’t run it on the top of my skid lid but mounted on the chin bar if my full face weight is much less notable.

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rwalters
+3 Andrew Major hambobet Todd Hellinga
Ryan Walters  - Nov. 1, 2020, 8:56 a.m.

Best case to be made for a fully enclosed, 1-piece system: Years ago, a buddy and I embarked on a night ride. The cold, drizzly parking lot prep for a north shore night ride is always a confusing gong show. Setting up a multi-wired light system in the dark just adds to the stress level. To maximize run-time, we would use the little cheapie MEC handlebar lights for the climb, and then switch to our proper systems for the descent. We climbed all the way up to 7th and got ready to descend. Imagine the confusion, surprise and inevitable laughs when my buddy fished into his pack for the battery, and pulled out the charger instead. No battery. An honest mistake made in a cold, dark parking lot, as the charger and battery looked similar and had the same cable and connector. It was a slow and interesting ride down for him.

The look on his face, at the top of Fromme, flooded by my own 1000 lumen headlamp, holding his charger in both hands still cracks me up to this day thinking about it.

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Nov. 1, 2020, 2:43 p.m.

That’s an epic story!!! Hahahaha. 

I had a buddy show up for his first night ride on Severed with only a bar light. Plenty of places on that trail where your bar is lighting some trees and you can’t see the roll in you're committing to, which resulted In a few off the bike moments. A couple Of the crashes his light unplugged and it was one of those nights you can’t see your fingers in front of your face. An experience.

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xy9ine
+1 Andrew Major
Perry Schebel  - Nov. 2, 2020, 7:08 a.m.

consensus on the best cheap all in ones? after several years of loyal service, i fear my $25 specials are on their last legs. like the idea of not having to dick about with remote batteries.

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Nov. 2, 2020, 7:22 a.m.

I can go any number of ways - Bontrager, L&M, Blackburn - on my lid, but it’s Seca Comp/Taz 2000 on my bar for sure.

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tdzride
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tdzride  - Nov. 2, 2020, 3:41 p.m.

Any tips for sourcing these in Canada? I've only been able to find them online at US stores. Time for some night ride action

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Frorider
+1 Andrew Major
Frorider  - Nov. 2, 2020, 5 p.m.

Was confused by the ‘I'm down with extension cables and expensive separated systems’ bit near the end....seemed to contradict the preceding review...then I realized you probably meant to say ‘done’.

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AndrewMajor
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Andrew Major  - Nov. 2, 2020, 7:01 p.m.

Thanks! Fixed. It’s funny how you read something 1000x and that’s what your brain sees. Had to do a search to find the error after I missed it reading through.

Much appreciated.

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