Time to shut things down in the Okanagan. Dumb asses.
COVID-19
Can someone please tell me why we’re going to start letting the yanks in. To me this is a VERY bad idea, vaxxed or not.
Posted by: FLATCH
Can someone please tell me why we’re going to start letting the yanks in. To me this is a VERY bad idea, vaxxed or not.
It's the election, dummy! lol...
Posted by: FLATCH
Can someone please tell me why we’re going to start letting the yanks in. To me this is a VERY bad idea, vaxxed or not.
Why would it be a problem to let vaccinated travelers cross the border?
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Posted by: FLATCH
Can someone please tell me why we’re going to start letting the yanks in. To me this is a VERY bad idea, vaxxed or not.
Why would it be a problem to let vaccinated travelers cross the border?
Because fully vax'd can carry delta ('merica is swimming in it you know that right?) and pass to unsuspecting who may pass to vulnerable and vice versa.
Who knows, maybe the 4th wave down there has already produced the "yanke" varient they don't knows about yet eh?
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Delta variant is already prevalent here in Canada, breakout infections are rare and we have a very high vaccination rate.
Americans can already fly here. People crossing would have to show proof of vaccination and present a negative test (from at most 72 hours prior to crossing).
Seems like this is relatively low risk.
....Canada's running genome sequencing tests on all sars2 samples now?
Here's another link regarding updating informed consent.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7645850/
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I'm going to guess no one heard about Patrick King in Alberta?
Last edited by: aShogunNamedMarcus on Aug. 8, 2021, 5:04 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Posted by: tungsten
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Posted by: FLATCH
Can someone please tell me why we’re going to start letting the yanks in. To me this is a VERY bad idea, vaxxed or not.
Why would it be a problem to let vaccinated travelers cross the border?
Because fully vax'd can carry delta ('merica is swimming in it you know that right?) and pass to unsuspecting who may pass to vulnerable and vice versa.
Who knows, maybe the 4th wave down there has already produced the "yanke" varient they don't knows about yet eh?
Delta variant is already prevalent here in Canada, breakout infections are rare and we have a very high vaccination rate.
Americans can already fly here. People crossing would have to show proof of vaccination and present a negative test (from at most 72 hours prior to crossing).
Seems like this is relatively low risk.
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Posted by: tungsten
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Posted by: FLATCH
Can someone please tell me why we’re going to start letting the yanks in. To me this is a VERY bad idea, vaxxed or not.
Why would it be a problem to let vaccinated travelers cross the border?
Because fully vax'd can carry delta ('merica is swimming in it you know that right?) and pass to unsuspecting who may pass to vulnerable and vice versa.
Who knows, maybe the 4th wave down there has already produced the "yanke" varient they don't knows about yet eh?
Delta variant is already prevalent here in Canada, breakout infections are rare and we have a very high vaccination rate.
Americans can already fly here. People crossing would have to show proof of vaccination and present a negative test (from at most 72 hours prior to crossing).
Seems like this is relatively low risk.
First would be tungsten’s point. Prevalent is not the same as overwhelming as is happening in many southern states again. Secondly, there is no real way to tell if someone has been vaccinated. And has our resident whack job would tell you, testing is not foolproof. Also why aren’t the yanks letting us in?
Last edited by: FLATCH on Aug. 8, 2021, 6:09 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Posted by: FLATCH
First would be tungsten’s point. Prevalent is not the same as overwhelming as is happening in many southern states again. Secondly, there is no real way to tell if someone has been vaccinated. And has our resident whack job would tell you, testing is not foolproof. Also why aren’t the yanks letting us in?
I’d like to see the numbers on breakout infections in vaccinated people with Delta. My reading is that it’s very small. So if we have a strong vaccination program, this is low risk imho.
There are vaccination records. People will have to provide that evidence. Do you have data on testing error rates?
All of these things combined still seem to me to be of low risk.
I think my feeling on this is that the point of getting vaccinated, and of having a strong vaccination program is that we start to re-open and get back to “normal”
Last edited by: Couch_Surfer on Aug. 8, 2021, 7:10 p.m., edited 1 time in total.
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Posted by: FLATCH
First would be tungsten’s point. Prevalent is not the same as overwhelming as is happening in many southern states again. Secondly, there is no real way to tell if someone has been vaccinated. And has our resident whack job would tell you, testing is not foolproof. Also why aren’t the yanks letting us in?
I’d like to see the numbers on breakout infections in vaccinated people with Delta. My reading is that it’s very small. So if we have a strong vaccination program, this is low risk imho.
There are vaccination records. People will have to provide that evidence. Do you have data on testing error rates?
All of these things combined still seem to me to be of low risk.
I think my feeling on this is that the point of getting vaccinated, and of having a strong vaccination program is that we start to re-open and get back to “normal”
Would there be a way to forge vax records? Vaccinated or not you can still carry and spread it, that’s proven. And have you seen how hard Delta is starting to hit children too young to be vaxxed? I’m not going to get into a pissing match about this but I just think it’s too early. It should be baby steps. You touched almost all the bases but you never touched on why the yanks borders are still closed to us.
Last edited by: FLATCH on Aug. 9, 2021, 4:53 a.m., edited 1 time in total.
Posted by: FLATCH
Would there be a way to forge vax records? Vaccinated or not you can still carry and spread it, that’s proven. And have you seen how hard Delta is starting to hit children too young to be vaxxed? I’m not going to get into a pissing match about this but I just think it’s too early. It should be baby steps. You touched almost all the bases but you never touched on why the yanks borders are still closed to us.
I don't know why the yanks aren't opening up at this moment, not sure that it's important from a risk point of view.
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What baby steps would you take prior to opening the borders to Vaccinated people?
Posted by: FLATCH
You touched almost all the bases but you never touched on why the yanks borders are still closed to us.
Because we're their bitch. Or the owning classes here are whores. Take your pick, either works.
Posted by: FLATCH
Would there be a way to forge vax records? Vaccinated or not you can still carry and spread it, that’s proven. And have you seen how hard Delta is starting to hit children too young to be vaxxed? I’m not going to get into a pissing match about this but I just think it’s too early. It should be baby steps. You touched almost all the bases but you never touched on why the yanks borders are still closed to us.
Two Canadians were fined $15,000 each for having and using forged vaxxed cards if im not mistaken.
I'll ask you the same thing I asked the serfer: are all countries sequencing the lab results to find the new variant bc as shoreboy said, since there's no genetic family, the regular soon to be retired sars2 pcr test won't pick up the delta on a test. ...
Sleep in fear kids.
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