Subsidised Post Secondary Education

Same ass hats who want all those benefits..health care, EI, Welfare, and such. But pay more taxes? Hell no.

Well this "asshat" has not one time,EVER drawn an EI cheque in his life, nor has he ever collected a welfare cheque. This asshat also pays 5K a month in income taxes and this asshat is also sick of being taxed out the ass and then having to wait 8 months for diagnostic imaging or to visit a specialist. So ya Mil…pay more taxes? NO FUCKING THANKS!

Only 5K?

Only 5K?

Is that not enough?

but the number of people getting a degree like that vs the number of those at Emily Carr preparing to ask me if I would like fries with that outweighs the engineers hands down. .

You are simply wrong. I'm a graduate of Emily Carr, and served on the board there for 5 years. I know how much dislike there is for facts but please bear with me:

- a survey run by Vision Critical shows that during the economic downturn (2008/9) until this year, 92% of ECU graduates were working and directly supporting growth in the BC's creative economy.
- this represents 6% growth over the course of the economic down-turn. In short, while other sectors suffered, ECU grads were able to find positions or create opportunities.
- I'm a case in point: in 2009, I started a mobile/tablet game developer specializing in Unity3D. I've grown from 2 of us to 50 people in that time. And, ECU grads, and CDM post-grads represent a good chunk of those hires.
- 30% of alumni are creative entrepreneurs who own their business, are self-employed or are themselves, employers.

Don't you dare slag my school.
Facts because fuck you.

You have to see the show to understand the context of the enema scene.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2013/07/20/mb-fringe-controversial-performance.html

How exactly do you justify funding bullshit like vampire studies when people are dying waiting for treatment?
Every cent wasted on this bullshit takes away from our betterment and healthcare…every cent.

Indefensable..

.02

( subsidies for the energy industry and other government wastrelisms have to stop too )

My tax dollars pay for this kind of crap:

I'll take enemas at a Fringe festival over tourists with guns ANYDAY.

Is that not enough?

I was gona go ahead and suggest investing in some tax relief to lower your tax bill but then you would probably get ass raped by a mutual fund salesman

which you would then blame on my hate for energy sector workers

but then I could cry "poor me" back atcha

My tax dollars pay for this kind of crap:

I'll take enemas at a Fringe festival over tourists with guns ANYDAY.

me too.

5k

you know you could always travel south and pay way more for immediate care.

You aren't going to increase the support for health care without making those positions more enticing. Because that is publicly funded you increase funding by increasing taxes. you increase tax revenue by educating the populace. Uneducated people hate the government and can't see past april 30th every year. They are selfish and would rather keep their money in their own pockets then give it to a group of people who will give it back to everyone in the form of schooling and roads and such.

A very generalized view point.

5k

you know you could always travel south and pay way more for immediate care.

You aren't going to increase the support for health care without making those positions more enticing. Because that is publicly funded you increase funding by increasing taxes. you increase tax revenue by educating the populace. Uneducated people hate the government and can't see past april 30th every year. They are selfish and would rather keep their money in their own pockets then give it to a group of people who will give it back to everyone in the form of schooling and roads and such.

A very generalized view point.

I never once said I was against funding education or healthcare. I clearly stated my objection to wasteful spending on vampire and zombie studies and at least two times said the money spent should go to elementary schools or other programs.I also called for the removal of energy subsidies and the end of government wastrelism. You are so biased by your hate for people with a conservative viewpoint that you have dismissed much of my comments and drawn your own conclusions about my views. And finally, I pay enough in taxes its my right to object if I don't like how they are being spent or to whine about the amount they take.

A very myopic view point.

Nothing wrong with the arts, the wife and I regularly attend improvisational theatre and support the arts. That said our education system is in crisis,schools are facing funding cutbacks, teachers are being laid off,and schools are crumbling. What benefits society more,educating teachers, medical professionals or the vampire studies?

Money spent on vampire/zombie studies would be better spent to fund courses that provide real measurable benefits to our society in general and not pissed away on useless courses on fictional beings in films and culture. Wasting money to fund
Quote "Even for those that do, it's nice to take a course that's unrelated to their studies that they may enjoy" instead of using it for providing funding for educating elementary students or say…healthcare, is wasteful and disgusting.

How exactly do you justify funding bullshit like vampire studies when people are dying waiting for treatment?
Every cent wasted on this bullshit takes away from our betterment and healthcare…every cent.

Indefensable..

.02

( subsidies for the energy industry and other government wastrelisms have to stop too )

I know how much dislike there is for facts but please bear with me:

Speaking of facts,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_Affair

Only recently deemed a light infantry battalion, some leaders expressed concern that the Somalia mission did not fit the Regiment's mandate or abilities. The Airborne consisted of multiple sub-units drawn from each of Canada's regular infantry regiments. Later, Lt. Col. Kenward suggested that the line regiments had offloaded some of their "bad apples" into the CAR. Lt. Col. Morneault, the commanding officer of the CAR, declared the "rogue commando" unit unfit for service abroad and sought to have it remain in Canada. Instead, he was relieved of his command and replaced by Lieutenant Colonel Carol Mathieu.[8]

There had been recurring discipline problems, and an ongoing investigation into their base of CFB Petawawa as a hotbed of white supremacist activity in 2 Commando.[9] This included the adoption of the Rebel flag as the commando's barracks-room decoration.[10] The flag had initially been presented as a gift from American soldiers, and gradually became an unofficial symbol, although successive commanding officers had tried to ban its usage.[6]

Footage depicting racist actions of Cpl. McKay and Pte. Brocklebank was later brought forward by Scott Taylor, who hoped to expose systematic problems in the military and exonerate his friend Kyle Brown.[11] In the video, McKay can be heard uttering racial slurs,[12] and pre-deployment photographs showed him wearing a Hitler shirt in front of a Swastika.[13] Brocklebank was seen "uttering racist and violent epithets on a video taken by [CAR] soldiers".[14]
Video of brutal hazing rituals also came to light, including a video from the summer of 1992 which showed 1 Commando engaging in "hijinks" ranging from smearing faeces on each other, to bestiality; the black soldier Christopher Robin was shown on all fours with a leash, led around like a dog, with the phrase "I Love KKK" written on his back, while surrounding soldiers screamed about White Power and jeered, one demonstrating his objection to Black soldiers in the Airborne through racist language.[6][15][16]

Mike Abel, the only Canadian to die in the Somali operation, was alleged a member of the KKK; although colleagues disputed the evidence that racist literature had been found in his belongings, pointing out that it just floated around the camp and everybody read it.[17][18]

Which resulted in the below photo which is used to show of outrage yet nothing about the facts that led to this.

My tax dollars pay for this kind of crap:

I'll take enemas at a Fringe festival over tourists with guns ANYDAY.

Reality is our tax dollars paid the wage of the CO who could see the unit was unfit to deploy. For doing his job he was removed and a replacement who was more willing to say Yes was moved in.

Well this "asshat" has not one time,EVER drawn an EI cheque in his life, nor has he ever collected a welfare cheque. This asshat also pays 5K a month in income taxes and this asshat is also sick of being taxed out the ass and then having to wait 8 months for diagnostic imaging or to visit a specialist. So ya Mil…pay more taxes? NO FUCKING THANKS!

Hate to sound like too much of a socialist but if you're making enough to be paying $5k in taxes per month you are still taking home more money than 90% of the population and should have more than enough to live an extremely comfortable life. Is it really so bad to be paying some money back to the country that has given you the infrastructure and opportunities to become so successful?

Although the EI and welfare safety net can be greatly improved to weed out those taking advantage of it, it is an absolutely necessary part of our society and there are countless people who, for many reasons, need to fall back on it for a short period of time before returning to work to contribute again. I can't stand it when ignorant people simplify the end result of their tax payments: employment insurance and post-secondary eduction are only small parts of it which for the most part pay themselves back. Do you have any idea how much it costs to build and maintain our roads? To pay for our already too-gutted public education system? To pay for our less-than-perfect public health care system?

I am not upset at all about the amount of tax dollars I pay because I appreciate most of the things they provide.

If you want to be upset with something that your tax dollars are going to you should start with the absolutely ridiculous salaries, perks, and retirement packages of our MP's and MLA's (as well as many other government employees who are not even needed), move on to the stupid subsidies to energy companies which are already basically stealing from our country, and then maybe continue on to some of our stupid military spending.

Hate to sound like too much of a socialist but if you're making enough to be paying $5k in taxes per month you are still taking home more money than 90% of the population and should have more than enough to live an extremely comfortable life. Is it really so bad to be paying some money back to the country that has given you the infrastructure and opportunities to become so successful?

Although the EI and welfare safety net can be greatly improved to weed out those taking advantage of it, it is an absolutely necessary part of our society and there are countless people who, for many reasons, need to fall back on it for a short period of time before returning to work to contribute again. I can't stand it when ignorant people simplify the end result of their tax payments: employment insurance and post-secondary eduction are only small parts of it which for the most part pay themselves back. Do you have any idea how much it costs to build and maintain our roads? To pay for our already too-gutted public education system? To pay for our less-than-perfect public health care system?

I am not upset at all about the amount of tax dollars I pay because I appreciate most of the things they provide.

If you want to be upset with something that your tax dollars are going to you should start with the absolutely ridiculous salaries, perks, and retirement packages of our MP's and MLA's (as well as many other government employees who are not even needed), move on to the stupid subsidies to energy companies which are already basically stealing from our country, and then maybe continue on to some of our stupid military spending.

Where do I say EI or Welfare are bad or criticize anyone for using them, I just said that I hadn't used the programs. You too have chosen to ignore selective parts of my comments (see post 70 and then go re read the thread).

Another one with selective and myopic views.

Is that not enough?

Look at what you take home. That's more important.