Translink & 0.5% vote (merged)

will this 0.5% get translink their own walkman sniffing dog?

do you have stats to back that up? otherwise it's just pure speculation. thanks for sharing your speculation.

How much is the subway going to cost? Right now it's projected at $2 billion, or about 30% of the $7.5 billion the Mayors are asking for. Everyone else can have rapid transit above ground, but Vancouver's west side can only have transit below ground (Cambie, Broadway), and that costs more. The Arbutus corridor could have been built for $600 million less than an underground route along Cambie, but it wasn't because of "community concerns". It ended up costing twice as much to build.

Again, it was OK to put in the SkyTrain through people's back yards in East Vancouver because that was the most cost effective, but it's not OK to do so in the west side. Same principle applies to downtown and efficient transportation routing.

If you need stats, just view the Mayor's Vision report and search for Arbutus/Cambie corridor and RAV/Canada line.

I'd like to vote yes, but I can't with Translink at the helm. Translink is a debacle that has to be sorted out before we give them even more money.

I'm also a fan of the idea of placing tolls on all the bridges in order to capture more revenue and spread the cost.

Here's a decent article I can across this morning. I'm not sure about the whole Rob Ford comparison but brings up valid points for the yes side.

http://foodforthoughtbookclub.com/2015/03/10/vancouvers-rob-ford-moment/

You neocons are pennywise and pound foolish to be prideful about that bridge that costs us so much, and then point to translink salaries as wasteful.

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amazing how you can have all that growth south of the fraser yet no extra people are going to drive over the portmann in fact why build more transit if the bridge is going to be that fluid

sorry not buying the "sighline institutes" longterm projections

It's the province 's projections (notSightline's) used to justify the debt. Tell Jordan Bateman you don't believe the projection and feel duped as he was part of the group rallying behind Port Mann project.

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Anyone find a good source of traffic data for bridges like the Port Mann, Patullo, Alex Fraser and the GM Tunnel?

I searched for the Port Mann and it is surprisingly difficult to find. Easy to find news reports about it but not the actual data used to create the news story.

Is someone hiding it? Any why?

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My wife and I drive either the Alex Fraser, Patullo or GM Tunnel every morning [HTML_REMOVED] afternoon. Our feeling is that the amount of traffic has increased a lot since the construction on the PM bridge started, then increased again once the tolls were implemented.

http://www.pmh1project.com/about-the-project/about-ti-corp/Pages/Traffic.aspx

http://www.pmh1project.com/about-the-project/about-ti-corp/Pages/Traffic.aspx

Thanks, I looked at the PM-H1 site but couldn't find that page.

Anyone have links for the other bridges and tunnel?

Completion of the SFPR has also seemed to have a big impact too, it made it easier for people to avoid the PM.

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I wonder why they aren't showing the 2013 Total Monthly Traffic on their chart? They must have the data since they list the Monthly Weekday Average Traffic for 2013.

Some interesting reading on the Translink budget shortfalls. A lot of it is tied to decline gas sales. The forecasting error in spotting the fuel consumption decline has caught many transportation authorities off guard. In BC's case, the forecast was made harder by Victoria's decision to add fuel tax at different point in supply chain. Hard to pin this kind of goal post moving on Translink. For CraigH: many of the stats on regional bridge usage seem to come from Translink reports…

Oh the irony in declining fuel usage causing budget shortfalls.

The Mayor's plan calls for a reduction in gas tax of six cents a liter.

Anyone find a good source of traffic data for bridges like the Port Mann, Patullo, Alex Fraser and the GM Tunnel?

I searched for the Port Mann and it is surprisingly difficult to find. Easy to find news reports about it but not the actual data used to create the news story.

Is someone hiding it? Any why?

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My wife and I drive either the Alex Fraser, Patullo or GM Tunnel every morning [HTML_REMOVED] afternoon. Our feeling is that the amount of traffic has increased a lot since the construction on the PM bridge started, then increased again once the tolls were implemented.

you can find some here also http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/trafficData/index.html

you can find some here also http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/trafficData/index.html

Thanks!
Interesting, the not really data, more like reports.

This one is for Alex Fraser, south end where the Nordel overpass is.

https://pub-apps.th.gov.bc.ca/tig-public/Report.do?pdbSiteId=14089

Interesting that the summer volume is higher than the average for the rest of the year. Tourists?

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Ah, data is here, but 2014 is missing:
http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/trafficData/tradas/tradas.asp?loc=P-16-60NS

The Mayor's plan calls for a reduction in gas tax of six cents a liter.

Well, maybe. And definitely not soon. The way I read the plan is that they would only do that following the implementation of road pricing. That's got nothing to do with this particular tax increase.