TO Police Taser Dog

While I agree with you to a point, taunting a bull and killing one are two different
things. The most vicious dogs I've seen were little dogs, the bigger breeds tend
to be a bit more serious, and with the medias attention on the situation it has
bread into many humans a fear of certain things. By vilifying these breads we
then say as a society that it's ok to kill them. We do this with sharks, wolves,
tigers and so on. With this kind of mentality we become the monsters we pretend
to be abhorring.

A few years ago before the Ontario Pit Bull ban one of the papers dug through Toronto's files for some info on dog attacks. Specifically involving children. 90% of attacks where done by small dogs.

If I recall correctly one incident involved a 2 year old who crawled into the neighbours yard and I believe was killed by a Chihauhau.

Some more interesting facts here,

http://caveat.blogware.com/blog/_archives/2005/12/9/1443099.html

Scroll down and note the various dogs types that attacked. Please also not the one false "Pit Bull" report that was in fact a German Shepherd.

It should be noted that Fred Astaire, President Roosevelt and Helen Keller owned "Pit Bulls" though it should be noted the type they owned was known as the Yankee Terrier.

In my mind, if you're going to cull a Pitbull for being aggressive, you also need to cull 95% of small dogs. Small dogs get away with aggressive behavior because they are non threatening. If a Pitty was bluff charging, snapping it's teeth and acting aggressive, it would probably be put down, if a small dog was to do the same thing (which most do!), people would just chuckle and pat it on the head, further encouraging the behavior. The only difference between a Pitty and 95% of small dogs is that a Pitty is strong enough to do some damage.

ok so your kid gets attacked by a shitzu or a bull dog and thats the same thing?

ok so your kid gets attacked by a shitzu or a bull dog and thats the same thing?

Sweet strawman! I said that if we're going to cull/ban aggressive breeds, start with small dogs. I thought I made it very clear that Pitbulls have a greater capacity to injure than a small dog does, but small dogs are far more likely to attack a human.

In my mind, if you're going to cull a Pitbull for being aggressive, you also need to cull 95% of small dogs. Small dogs get away with aggressive behavior because they are non threatening. If a Pitty was bluff charging, snapping it's teeth and acting aggressive, it would probably be put down, if a small dog was to do the same thing (which most do!), people would just chuckle and pat it on the head, further encouraging the behavior. The only difference between a Pitty and 95% of small dogs is that a Pitty is strong enough to do some damage.

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i scold small dog owners that snarl and bark at me when i'm walking my 100lb mutt. 'control your dog!' they don't like that.
i hate walking along the seawall, and my dog wants to say hi to a little dog, and its all snarling, growling and spitting. teh funny thing is Benson will be on a 3' leash, heeling, yet these things are on 25' reteactables, all the way out.
still… i am not a pit bull fan, i've met some great ones, but i find them to be on the ugly side. it comes down to training and owners..i've met some pits that are great, and seen some i cross the street for…mostly due to the owner, a piece of yellow nylon rope isn't a good leash for a powerful god IMHO!

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i scold small dog owners that snarl and bark at me when i'm walking my 100lb mutt. 'control your dog!' they don't like that.
i hate walking along the seawall, and my dog wants to say hi to a little dog, and its all snarling, growling and spitting. teh funny thing is Benson will be on a 3' leash, heeling, yet these things are on 25' reteactables, all the way out.

Totally!!!! Then they get pissed off at you and threaten to call the SPCA if your dog growls or barks at them to put them in their place.

I've been bitten three or four times in my life, twice by little floppy POS dogs and once by a standard poodle (which I think are among the most dog/dog aggressive breeds in existence)

Another good link of information: www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

Check out table 2. Amazing that a labrador could kill so many people.

And yes, I agree that the pitbull has the lions share of deaths, but I feel it's more
a matter of training (or lack of) than the breed being "mean by nature".

Those results are further skewed becuase they are not on a per captia basis. A lab is the single most popular dog according to AKC, so the actually rate of attack is significantly lower. The discussion of the report states as such.

"Ideally, breed-specific bite rates would be calculated
to compare breeds and quantify the relative dangerousness
of each breed. For example, 10 fatal attacks by
Breed X relative to a population of 10,000 X[HTML_REMOVED]#8217;s (1/1,000)
implies a greater risk than 100 attacks by Breed Y relative
to a population of 1,000,000 Y[HTML_REMOVED]#8217;s (0.1/1,000).
Without consideration of the population sizes, Breed Y
would be perceived to be the more dangerous breed on
the basis of the number of fatalities."

If you start looking at population sizes pit bulls will look much worse with that data. If all breeds were equally as violent that data should mimic the population sizes of the animals. It clearly doesn't.

To be clear, I'm not advocating anything other than responsible dog ownership and getting capable people owning the right type of dog.

Totally!!!! Then they get pissed off at you and threaten to call the SPCA if your dog growls or barks at them to put them in their place.

I've been bitten three or four times in my life, twice by little floppy POS dogs and once by a standard poodle (which I think are among the most dog/dog aggressive breeds in existence)

I'll vouch for that, we had a standard, and she was a great dog with people, kids, rabbits (my mum's pet bunny's run loose in the backyard), but wouldn't tolerate other dogs within 50' of the family.
my friend has 2 bull breeds, a 35lb staffie, and a 70lb pit, both females. We were on saltspring once, wlakin thru the market down there, and golden retriever growled at us, it's owner started screaming and panicking "Robert we've gotta get out of here, there's two pitbulls right there, they're gonna attack jake!"
Media induced panic, directed at friendly dogs.

Here's an example of a pitbull attack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hynS9uzDTsM

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Those results are further skewed becuase they are not on a per captia basis. A lab is the single most popular dog according to AKC, so the actually rate of attack is significantly lower. The discussion of the report states as such.

"Ideally, breed-specific bite rates would be calculated
to compare breeds and quantify the relative dangerousness
of each breed. For example, 10 fatal attacks by
Breed X relative to a population of 10,000 X

What do you get when you cross-breed a Shitzu with a Pitbull?

What do you get when you cross-breed a Shitzu with a Pitbull?

neg rep for a bad joke?

What do you get when you cross-breed a Shitzu with a Pitbull?

Apparently a dog named Tonka:

From some website I found it off of…

"This was my dog and life long buddy Tonka until he passed recently. He was a mixed breed of Lasso Apso/Shitzu and Pit Bull. Yes Pit Bull! Tonka was 16 years old to the month when he passed in my arms last October. May everyone be so lucky to have such a friend! This picture was taken about 10 months before he passed. RIP."

A dog fight occurs because both dogs exhibit dominant behaviour and refuse to back down. Dogs have a large number of behaviours to avoid or create confrontation, such as eye contact, tail hieght and posture. I have never seen a fight where the dog actually comes running 'out of no where' even though this is the cliche.

If your dog really has been in multiple fights, it suggests your dog is displaying these characteristcs. If your dog sits and stays during a fight it is only a comment on how the dog views you and your commands, not its dominant will over the other dog. I would suggest that any dog, of any breed that has been in multiple violent confrontations needs to be better trained or better controlled.

Quite the expert on dog behaviour aren't we. How many dogs have you been around???????????? I guess you never seen one dog go after another and the other dog has nothing else to do but to react. If multiply fights you mean 3 in 13 years then I guess she has, being young and travelling around lots in BC and my dog went everywhere with me she has meet literally hundreds of dogs, ever been to a tofino party? Lose the elitest attitute and join the real world.

another reason I prefer cats.

i think it is so brave of you to come out like this