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NSMB - 2022 - Hardtail Thread...

June 29, 2022, 3:48 p.m.
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Posted by: fartymarty

Vik - I'm not sure if it's the same in Canada but it's bad karma in the UK to wash your bike if it's dusty  ;)  Loving the double waterbottles.

I wash my bike pretty rarely. Usually when I need to work on the bike and don't want to get filthy. I wouldn't get rid of summer dust. However, I've got a lot of winter mud still caked on the bike in some places so I thought I should get rid of that given the [brief] change in seasons.

June 29, 2022, 5:01 p.m.
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I put together a kids Kona Kula 24 earlier this year that is still too big for my kid, but came across the opportunity to upgrade to a more proper modern kids HT frame which also fits a deeper post. The Honzo 24 sports a 67.5 HA and 74.5 SA with the stock 24 fork, with the 100mm 26 fork it's right around 65 and 72 now

My next project is to figure out how to route the dropper cable.

June 29, 2022, 11:49 p.m.
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Posted by: velocipedestrian

Looks tidy Marty. I am amused by the Saint preload bolt on the Deore crank.

Cheers.  They're a very worn set of Zee cranks with a gold ebay preload bolt to match the gold Saint BB.  It's a bit of a mish-mash of parts.  Like the XT/Zee brakes with Hope rotors.  The good stuff tends to go on the Murmur and the HT gets the leftovers.

June 29, 2022, 11:59 p.m.
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Posted by: UFO

I put together a kids Kona Kula 24 earlier this year that is still too big for my kid, but came across the opportunity to upgrade to a more proper modern kids HT frame which also fits a deeper post. The Honzo 24 sports a 67.5 HA and 74.5 SA with the stock 24 fork, with the 100mm 26 fork it's right around 65 and 72 now

My next project is to figure out how to route the dropper cable.

That's a hot little bike. I love that it still has reflectors. And an XTR mech!

June 30, 2022, 12:26 a.m.
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Posted by: fartymarty

Posted by: velocipedestrian

Looks tidy Marty. I am amused by the Saint preload bolt on the Deore crank.

The good stuff tends to go on the Murmur and the HT gets the leftovers.

That's the way. Though I'm having a crisis of conscience - what happens when I enjoy the HT more? Does the parts drift change direction?

June 30, 2022, 12:30 a.m.
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DIY paint bodge.

June 30, 2022, 12:31 a.m.
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Putting the band back together.

June 30, 2022, 12:31 a.m.
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Rebuilt MoXie.

June 30, 2022, 6:04 a.m.
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Posted by: velocipedestrian

That's the way. Though I'm having a crisis of conscience - what happens when I enjoy the HT more? Does the parts drift change direction?

That's the dilemma i'm facing at the moment.  I've spent a lot of time on the FS bike recently and finding the HT so much more fun and I don't have to ride it as hard to wake it up.

June 30, 2022, 7:15 a.m.
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These days my plan is middle of the road parts on everything! Stops any between bike jealousy. Only the bikes getting ridden a lot get any new parts because they are the ones that get worn out/damaged. I keep telling myself I'll get back to riding the FS bike, but so far that hasn't happened.

July 3, 2022, 5:33 p.m.
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I think I’ve become too reliant on dropper posts.  I tried a rigid post when a previous dropper shit the bed.  Was frightening.  Is it me or is this the state of the world now.

July 3, 2022, 5:43 p.m.
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Posted by: BC_Nuggets

I think I’ve become too reliant on dropper posts.  I tried a rigid post when a previous dropper shit the bed.  Was frightening.  Is it me or is this the state of the world now.

I had two fairly abrupt and startling crashes last time I tried to ride with a high post bike. Not even sure what happened - just lying in the weeds on the side of the trail, wondering how?!

Should be illegal.

July 3, 2022, 6:50 p.m.
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Bikes used to be shorter so you could get behind a saddle on a rigid post. These days with longer bikes you can't do that so a rigid post puts your CG up high with no options to get down.

July 5, 2022, 9:16 a.m.
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https://youtu.be/k0E4ZuwbNb8

Youtube video on "modern" vs "traditional" hardtail geometry and the different riding technique required.

Is it really this black and white? No grey area? Is this guy trying to turn me off of my 67.5 degree head angle so I go and buy 64 degree head angle? I would think 67.5 degrees is a grey area. He seems to present it as all or none which really bugs the shit out of me. Ah youtube experts. Get off my lawn.


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July 5, 2022, 9:25 a.m.
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"Modern" is whatever is "fashionable" currently. 67.5 deg HTA was "modern" at one point. 64 deg HTA will be "traditional" at some point as well. I like some aspects of what is considered modern geo and I prefer some things that are not en vogue. It really doesn't matter as long as it works for the person that owns the bike in question. Well beyond what's fashionable is what companies typically aim for so if you like stuff that's not hot at the moment finding stuff that suits those off trend tastes is harder.

HTP does say fairly frequently in his videos that "X, Y & Z" are what he enjoys and that those things may not work for the person viewing the video. I don't think he's of the mind that what he likes is the "right" answer for everyone.


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