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Well this looks pretty bad...

Aug. 5, 2014, 4:21 a.m.
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Very, very sad.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1490361/tailings-pond-breach-at-mount-polley-mine-near-likely-bc/

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Aug. 5, 2014, 7:38 a.m.
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i wonder what effect that is going to have on the expected record salmon returns .

listening to the news right now . . . officials say the situation has " stabilized ", which actually means the fucking thing is empty .

and it makes me wonder , what do they do with these things after their useful life is over ? i'm pretty sure i heard on cbc this morning that the mine itself is not active at this time .

Aug. 5, 2014, 8:04 a.m.
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the tailings ponds at Nicklemine rd. in Hope were reforested.

Aug. 5, 2014, 9:33 a.m.
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Residents declare it a disaster? What do the experts have to say?

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Aug. 5, 2014, 9:43 a.m.
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an entire tailings pond dumped it's contaminants into local waterways, how is that not a disaster?

Aug. 5, 2014, 9:52 a.m.
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an entire tailings pond dumped it's contaminants into local waterways, how is that not a disaster?

It's only a complete ban on all drinking water. We should wait for the experts to rule on this one.

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Aug. 5, 2014, 9:56 a.m.
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Not Likely!

But in all seriousness, that sucks. I hope the damage isn't epic.

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Aug. 5, 2014, 10:04 a.m.
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I'm most interested to find out how a structurally sound and monitored dam failed without warning.

I suspect it didn't happen without some assistance.

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Aug. 5, 2014, 10:09 a.m.
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I'm most interested to find out how a structurally sound and monitored dam failed without warning.

I suspect it didn't happen without some assistance.

That seemed odd to me. Especially in the summer when run-off would be low.

Aug. 5, 2014, 10:13 a.m.
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and it makes me wonder , what do they do with these things after their useful life is over ? i'm pretty sure i heard on cbc this morning that the mine itself is not active at this time .

Depends on the type of mine (therefore, the type of tails), location and honestly the timing of the approval. From what I have seen, water is generally treated / monitored over time and the area eventually revegitated.

Would be unusual for a company to just abandon a tailings pond these days because of the impact of something like this on their reputation (not to mention, the cost of the clean-up far exceeds the cost of maintaining the dam).

Aug. 5, 2014, 10:16 a.m.
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an entire tailings pond dumped it's contaminants into local waterways, how is that not a disaster?

I think no matter how you slice it, it's a pretty terrible situation. Especially for residents where an alternative water source probably isn't the easiest to come by.

Aug. 5, 2014, 11 a.m.
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I just heard on the radio that a environmental consultant who'd examined it prior found it filled to the bursting point and a disaster waiting to happen.

So who's at fault, the mine operators or the Province for not holding their feet to the fire?

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Aug. 5, 2014, 11:03 a.m.
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That seemed odd to me. Especially in the summer when run-off would be low.

The mine had been struggling to contain high runoffs this spring and summer, according to the TV report I saw.

Aug. 5, 2014, 11:04 a.m.
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Would be unusual for a company to just abandon a tailings pond these days because of the impact of something like this on their reputation (not to mention, the cost of the clean-up far exceeds the cost of maintaining the dam).

Don't they view that as a cost of doing business, ie, the profit realized from general neglect in the long term offsets the odd time it bites them back?

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Aug. 5, 2014, 11:05 a.m.
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We drove through that area last summer. Some beautiful spots up that way.

Details on the report on the tailings pond:

Mine waste leak forces water-use ban on Quesnel, Cariboo River systems

http://www.vancouversun.com/health/Mine+waste+leak+forces+water+Quesnel+Cariboo+River+systems/10088871/story.html

Sat. pic of the tailing pond:

https://goo.gl/maps/pRa5u

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