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> gotta love clean air.

I've seen the sky in vancouver look exactly the same, it's called overcast. They have blue sky there too….

yes for a while I was, I just sold it and my new commuter bike is now orange

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Notice how not only is Beijing not slaughtering anyone but they are also conceding to the demands? How does that fit into your brutal CCP narrative?

I think a better question is why is the government trying to foist repressive policies onto HK residents and even more so why are they not eliminating those same repressive polices in place against the rest of the Chinese population?

The issue here is extradition not a blanket protest against "repressive policies". 

And on that note: Could you imagine if somebody commited a crime in Ontario then ran to BC and Ontario had no way to get at them? This is basically the situation in China. 

Reductimat: if you're gonna have the death penalty why wouldn't you harvest the organs?

Posted by: ReductiMat

Pretty sad that those living in Hong Kong can't see the benevolent overtures of what a Chinese rule can give us, amirite FO.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/c1ebd0/timelapse_of_a_2_million_marchers_in_a_city_with/

Notice how not only is Beijing not slaughtering anyone but they are also conceding to the demands? How does that fit into your brutal CCP narrative?

Rage, chaos and crashes eh? 

Sounds like the ignored realities of car driving in every city ever.

I saw a Chevy Bolt this morning in Vancouver with Texas plates. So I guess that puts the "you can't road trip in an EV" argument to rest.

Posted by: switch

Posted by: Fast-Orange

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Fast-Orange

And in case you hadn't been paying attention we don't exactly treat accused terrorists humanely or with due process either.

a couple of things to think about on that front - scale and redress.

do you think the scale of that issue is comparable in Canada and China? do you think China is comparable to Canada in terms of making amends or trying to make amends for lack of human treatment and due process?

it's almost like you're trying to make the argument that Canada and China are on equal footing in terms of human rights issues and dealing with them,

In terms of scale you can't really compare Canada and China. In the last 10 years there have been over 100 terrorist attacks in China resulting in over 700 deaths. 

Those "terrorist" attacks are almost all in northwestern China’s Muslim region, with maybe a couple in annexed Tibet.  I suppose you believe the Chinese government's treatment of the people in those regions has nothing to do with attacks.

I think it has everything to do with how the Chinese government treats them. I would probably want to blow them up too if I was religous enough.

Posted by: ReductiMat

Posted by: Fast-Orange

And in case you hadn't been paying attention we don't exactly treat accused terrorists humanely or with due process either.

No kidding.  Have you seen the monstrosities Meng is living under?

She is not suspected of being a brown terrorist combatant, you can do better than that.

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Fast-Orange

And in case you hadn't been paying attention we don't exactly treat accused terrorists humanely or with due process either.

a couple of things to think about on that front - scale and redress.

do you think the scale of that issue is comparable in Canada and China? do you think China is comparable to Canada in terms of making amends or trying to make amends for lack of human treatment and due process?

it's almost like you're trying to make the argument that Canada and China are on equal footing in terms of human rights issues and dealing with them,

In terms of scale you can't really compare Canada and China. In the last 10 years there have been over 100 terrorist attacks in China resulting in over 700 deaths. 

How many Canadians have been killed by terrorists in that time frame? What if First Nations in Canada were prone to car bombs and suicide attacks? How do you think we would be treating them?

Posted by: Brocklanders

My point in regard to the monk isn't if Tibet should or shouldn't be a part of China. It's how the Chinese police state scoops up people, jails them, beats the fuck out of them for something every person should be entitled to, freedom of speech or as you may call it as China's biggest fan... Unlawful assembly.

See you assume he was scooped up for peaceful protesting. 2000 PLA soldiers were killed in the 1959 uprising so I assume he was either killing soldiers or aiding the butthurt feudal lords to kill soldiers. There's also no proof that anything he says about his treatment is true. 

And in case you hadn't been paying attention we don't exactly treat accused terrorists humanely or with due process either.

Posted by: syncro

Posted by: Fast-Orange

It's easy to sit on a high horse and accuse a country of oppression when there isn't a gang of world powers constantly trying to fuck with you.

It's not a high horse, it's simply looking at history and the information available. China decided to close themselves off from most of the rest of the world and go down an ideological and military path that pretty much determined their fate over the past century.

Look we get it that you lived there for a while and have a much better view and understanding of the place than us as well as a certain allegiance, but if you had to be realistic about it do you honestly think the average citizen in China has a better chance at a great life than the average citizen in most Western democracies? If so, then why the fuck is the moneyed elite of China buying up the west coast of North America and sending their kids here for school?

Well considering that the last time they opened up an alliance of world powers used it as a chance to push opium on them can you blame them for closing off?

And look I realize a bunch of corrupt elite have taken advantage of our weak government to hide their ill-gotten gains and insulate their families but there are actually a lot more rich Chinese who aren't leaving than ones who are. 

There are also lots of Chinese people who move to Canada, don't like it, and move back to China after a few years so drop thr whole "but everybody wants to live here instead" arrogance.

Posted by: syncro

well it wasn't always under Chinese control and Chinese control in say the 13th century is vastly different from Chinese control today. basically from about 1640 until 1951 Tibet was more or less independent, with some periods of Chinese influence. of course that changed in 1951. part of what's interesting is that it's possible to trace distinct genetic lineage that different from the Chinese back some 20,000yrs. so depending on how you want to slice it, China has pretty much always been an occupying force or controller of Tibet. 

all the history aside tho there are really only a couple of questions that need to be asked. do the Tibetan people want independence from China and if so are they being given that opportunity? do the Tibetan people feel they are being oppressed by the Chinese and are the Chinese using oppressive force to maintain control of Tibet?

It's easy to sit on a high horse and accuse a country of oppression when there isn't a gang of world powers constantly trying to fuck with you.