Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.
Smart Meters?
From the article, suckers…….
"In June 2013, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Californias three big, investor-owned utilities had disclosed individual account information on thousands of their customers last year Thanks to smart meters, that data can reveal when a customer goes to work, heads to bed or leaves on vacation "
It's a darn good thing they can't do that with cell phones.
I'd hate to think that my cell phone might reveal where I go and when I go there.
I'm also glad they can't look at my banking records to see where I might be traveling or what I'm spending my money on.
And, of course, I'd hate to think that someone might be able to monitor my browsing history to learn anything about me.
LOL. It is times like this I kinda wish I hadn't put Tungsten on ignore.
OH NOES. The local smash and grab thief might hack into BC Hydro and figure out when I go to bed. Seriously, who worries about bullshit like this? Wouldn't a simply light timer thwart them?
CLASS ACTION: PLAINTIFFS' WRITTEN REPRESENTATIONS (Application for Certification)
October 1, 2015
Please find attached, for service upon BC Hydro, the Plaintiffs' written representations in support of their application to amend. These have been filed with the Court today, October 1, 2015.
ADDITIONALLY: Application to Amend
TABLE OF CONTENTS
I. DEFINITIONS
II. ORDERS SOUGHT ON APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATION
III. CERTIFICATION ISSUES
IV. PLEADINGS DISCLOSE A CAUSE OF ACTION
A. Approach to review of pleadings
B. Health concerns
C. Personal choice
D. Charter overview
E. Charter, Section 7 - Liberty Interest
F. Charter, Section 7 - Security Interest
G. Territorial privacy under the Charter, Section 8
H. Biological effects trigger Charter rights
I. Pleadings applicable to business premises
J. Opt-Out Fees, Failed Installation Fees and Service Refusals
K. Fundamental Principles of Justice in Context
L. Regulation of Electrical Service in British Columbia
M. BC Hydro is exempted from regulation in two respects
N. BC Hydro exempted from having to obtain a CPCN
O. Fortis not exempted from having to obtain a CPCN
P. Direction No. 4 exempts BC Hydro from BCUC scrutiny with respect to its "Meter Choices Program"
Q. Customer resistance against BC Hydro's installation of RF-Emitting Meters
R. Meter Choices Program
S. Direction No. 4 authorizes the mandatory imposition of RF-Emitting Meters
T. Customer "choice" [HTML_REMOVED] Direct Communication during Election Period
U. Duress
V. RF-Emitting Meters are not necessary to BC Hydro
W. Principles of Fundamental Justice - Overview
X. Arbitrariness
Y. Overbreadth
Z. Gross disproportion
AA. Lack of parity
BB. Lack of democratic process
CC. Duress
DD. Each element of the cause of action is supported by pleadings of fact
EE. The test for determining whether the pleadings disclose a cause of action
FF. Charter damages V. STANDARD OF PROOF ON CERTIFICATION
VI. IDENTIFIABLE CLASS OF TWO OR MORE PERSONS 68
A. Proposed classes
B. The test for "identifiable class"
C. Rational relationship as between (1) the criteria for class membership;
and (2) the claims advanced on behalf of that class
D. Rational relationship as between (1) the criteria for class membership;
and (2) the common issues pertaining to that class
E. Remaining test elements met
VII. COMMON ISSUES
A. Legal standard
B. Proposed common issues
C. Additional common issue and a methodology for determining "reasonableness"
D. Potential reformulations: the Customer's express position is not material
E. Application of the test
F. Variables within a class
VIII. PREFERABLE PROCEDURE
A. Legal test
B. Whether questions of fact or law common to the members of the
class predominate over any questions affecting only individual members
C. Whether a significant number of the members of the class have a valid interest individually controlling the prosecution of separate actions
D. Whether the class proceeding would involve claims that are or have been
the subject of any other proceedings
i. BCUC Exemption by way of the CEA
ii. BCUC Exemption by way of Direction No. 4
iii. Consequence of exemption
iv. Human Rights Complaint
E. Whether other means of resolving the claims are less practical or less efficient
i. Overview
ii. The practicalities and efficiencies of class proceedings
iii. There is a large number of individual claimants, each with a relatively
small claim for monetary relief
iv. Expert evidence will be required to resolve the dispute as to whether
there is a reasonable basis for concern about health risk
F. Whether the administration of the class proceeding would create greater difficulties
than those likely to be experienced if relief were sought by other means
G. Certification fulfills the advantage of access to justice
H. Certification fulfills the advantage of judicial economy
I. Certification fulfills the advantage of behaviour modification
J. Summary of preferability inquiry
IX. REPRESENTATIVE PLAINTIFF
A. Legal test
B. Each representative plaintiff would fairly and adequately represent the
interests of his or her respective class
i. Overview
ii. Davis and O'Connor as representatives of Class A
iii. Klein and Halani as representatives of Class B
iv. Schnurr and Noble as representatives of Class C
iv. A.) tungsten [HTML_REMOVED] tungsten representatives of Class D
v. Competence of class counsel
vi. Ability to bear any necessary costs
vii. Conclusion
C. The representative plaintiffs have produced a plan for the proceeding that
sets out a workable method of advancing the proceeding on behalf of the
respective classes and of notifying class members of the proceeding
D. The representative plaintiffs do not have, on the common issues, an
interest that is in conflict with the interests of other class members
X. CORPORATE CUSTOMERS
TABLE OF AUTHORITIES
Schedule A - Assertions of Health Concerns
Schedule B - Reasonableness of Health Concerns
Schedule C - Health Canada's Cellular Telephone Advice
Schedule D - Contested issues will involve competing expert evidence
Schedule E - Forced installations
Schedule F - Forced installations - Commercial
Schedule G - Direction No. 4 and Meter Choices Program
Schedule H - Direct Communication
Schedule I - Meter Choices Participation Statistics
Schedule J - Eligible Customers who refuse to pay (with the consequence that they
suffer a Forced Installation or a Service Refusal, threatened or actual) e.g. Sylvester
Schedule K - Eligible Customers who capitulate to the installation of an RF-Emitting
Meter - e.g. Schnurr
Schedule L - Eligible Customers who pay an opt out fee to avoid installation of an RF Emitting Meter
Schedule M - BC Hydro can operate without RF-Emitting Meters
Schedule N - Quantity of claimants
Schedule O - Independent claimants without alternative recourse
Schedule P - Representative plaintiffs' motivations
Schedule Q - Representative plaintiffs are informed
Schedule R - BCUC proceedings re: CEA exception
Schedule S - Human Rights Tribunal Complaint
Schedule T - Fortis 1 (Universal Opt-outs)
Schedule U - Fortis 2 - Quantum of Opt-out Fee
Schedule V - BCUC re: BC Hydro Fees
Schedule W - July 23, 2013. BCUC Fortis decision, excerpted
Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.
I see. So some wingnuts are stubborn, arrogant and stupid enough to ignore the advice of lawyers and proceed with an unwinnable class action. Lawyers win either way.
Bet BCH's first action is to move for dismissal on grounds that the case is frivolous and no science supports the plaintiff.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.
Say there Mr. Smarm, don't you have some work to do creating a device that robs one of your fellow human beans of meaningful employment?
Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.
Say there Mr. Smarm, don't you have some work to do creating a device that robs one of your fellow human beans of meaningful employment?
Change is never fun, but neither is black lung. Tumultuous times ahead, and we may need another French Revolution, but we'll get through it.
As for smartmeter's, they'll give us the ability to go greener.
The angst I see towards them seems to be naive and misdirected.
my smart meter gave me herpes. no joke
You know you went to far when even Tungsten thinks your a Jack Ass.
Say there Mr. Smarm, don't you have some work to do creating a device that robs one of your fellow human beans of meaningful employment?
Actually, the only reason I can automate processes is because they're very repetitive.
So I'm actually robbing fellow humans of repetitive, meaningless employment.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.
my smart meter gave me herpes. no joke
My smart meter gives me data. Beautiful, wondrous data.
Well shit. That ain't funny at all.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.
Actually, the only reason I can automate processes is because they're very repetitive.
So I'm actually robbing fellow humans of repetitive, meaningless employment.
And a paycheque. :rolleyes:
Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.
Lots of positions at Mc's if a boring repetitive job with a paycheck is one's only priority.
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity.
When many people suffer from a delusion, it is called religion.
Lots of positions at Mc's if a boring repetitive job with a paycheck is one's only priority.
For some people "a paycheck" is their only option.
Jerk.
Freedom of contract. We sell them guns that kill them; they sell us drugs that kill us.
Yea. Some guy poking around your property/building looking to read the meter is way less creepy. Just because someone has a clipboard doesn't mean they are not a rapist (no matter what their name badge says). Also, I don't know about you, but would personally rather me or my family not be at home during a B[HTML_REMOVED]E. You know? So it doesn't escalate into a bungled-home-invasion-homicide? The future is awesome.
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