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Lets kill Great white sharks!

Sept. 28, 2012, 3:10 p.m.
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the problem doesnt really lie with the fact that the sharks are eating people. it lies more with the fact that due to over fishing we are depleting their supply of food, thus they have to find food from other sources.

Its a similar problem to bears in places like Canada. We are in their territory, we fuck them up by feeding them, they become reliant on us, we kill them…

Sept. 28, 2012, 4:03 p.m.
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the problem doesnt really lie with the fact that the sharks are eating people. it lies more with the fact that due to over fishing we are depleting their supply of food, thus they have to find food from other sources.

And that's where surfers come in handy.

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Sept. 28, 2012, 9:04 p.m.
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[John Madden] _Jim, if Great White Sharks are truly Great, they should be able to overcome this. You don't become Great by rolling over and dying. _ [/John Madden]

Sept. 28, 2012, 9:22 p.m.
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Why kill the sharks? It just makes finding a seasonal rental accommodation in Whistler or Banff that much easier!

Why slag free swag?:rolleyes:

ummm, as your doctor i recommend against riding with a scaphoid fracture.

Sept. 28, 2012, 9:41 p.m.
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Not sure where these five occurred but a few years ago there were a bunch on local swimming beaches in WA. One guy was in waist deep water. Kind of like getting killed by a shark at wreck beach.

For sure there are some surf spots that people know of and still take the risk; but when people are attacked at suburban beaches the entire population gets spooked and something needs to be done. If they are just going out and hunting them that is pretty lame. If they spot them cruising local swimming beaches then fuck yeah. shut that shit down.

Sept. 28, 2012, 10:40 p.m.
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^ The shark you see isn't the one to worry about. Sharks are not like tigers where they
"get a taste for human" and keep coming back. They are accidents, that's why the death rate
is so low. Especially for a GW…largest predatory shark in the world and yet one of the
best survival rates of all sharks. If a GW wanted to kill us we would not be able to
swim in the ocean.

There are no "suburban" beaches. If you swim in the ocean where sharks are, you take a chance
of getting bit. Ten people per day drown in the USA! http://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html
Like I said, better chance of being attacked by dogs, better chance of dying from a dog
bite. Better chance of being killed by a coconut, lightning, bee sting (the list goes on).

As a surfer, and one who spent a lot of time in GW waters and Tiger shark waters I can
say leave them alone.

Humans killed by sharks = 17/year
Sharks killed by humans = 100,000,000/year

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Sept. 28, 2012, 11 p.m.
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Not sure where these five occurred but a few years ago there were a bunch on local swimming beaches in WA. One guy was in waist deep water. Kind of like getting killed by a shark at wreck beach.

There are about 10-12 shark kills_ per decade_ in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal,_unprovoked_shark_attacks_in_the_United_States

You are 40-50 times more likely to be struck by lighting. What is the Government doing to prevent lightning strikes? As to waist deep water … people drown in knee-deep water on a fairly regular basis:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2007-12-11/two-drown-in-knee-deep-water/984136
http://www.montgomerynews.com/articles/2012/07/30/public_spirit_willow_grove_guide/news/doc5016f9d33fa1c737136799.txt
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92812[HTML_REMOVED]page=1#.UGaNaxgsWlM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104935/Fire-chief-told-policeman-leave-drowning-man-3ft-deep-lake-half-boot-deep.html
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1[HTML_REMOVED]objectid=3547083
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-14/mumbai/32674538_1_gorai-beach-gigantic-tide-niranjan-shinge

Sept. 28, 2012, 11:07 p.m.
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Too bad surfers don't have a big dorsal fin.

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- H.G. Wells

Sept. 28, 2012, 11:13 p.m.
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http://www.thespec.com/news/world/article/807787--what-do-sharks-do-in-the-deep

www.thisiswhy.co.uk

www.teamnfi.blogspot.com/

Sept. 28, 2012, 11:17 p.m.
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Holy crap - 3500 pounds!

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- Josiah Stamp

Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the future of the human race.
- H.G. Wells

Sept. 29, 2012, 9:07 a.m.
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http://www.thespec.com/news/world/article/807787--what-do-sharks-do-in-the-deep

http://sharks-ocearch.verite.com/
Nice find, look at Brenda Fassie track, she's been hunting in the woods. lol

I know these tracks are only for a few months so far. It'd be nice to see a one year
pattern to see where they go during the off season. One thing that I saw that supports
the theory that it's the animals that are just learning to hunt big animals is how much
the smaller sharks ([HTML_REMOVED]10') moved vs the larger animals ([HTML_REMOVED]10'). You can see the smaller
ones moved a lot and out to sea quite a bit while the larger ones really concentrated
their efforts near particular places (I assume where seals hang out).

So when the animals get 10-12' long they start their transition from eating fish to a
mammalian diet. It's during this period the theory says that they can easily mistake
a human for a seal as they have little to no experience with seals so are going on
what their instinct has given them and a surfer outline or someone standing in the shallows
"might be" a seal so they take a chance. That means that a shark that has bitten a human
will in all likelihood never attack a human again. Also, sharks that have eaten several
seals now know exactly what seals look like in different situations so will not attack
either.

In summary, we should learn more about their habits and patterns, stay out of the water
during the high times or go in the water with the knowledge that it's a "bad" time and
asses the risk (still very low) and go in the water anyway.

In other words, we need to stop be so fucking reactionary and stop killing sharks.

You are 168 times more likely to be killed by a croc http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/13-12-2010/116179-crocodiles-0/

Sharks kill or mail up to 15 people every year. Hippos kill 200, elephants kill 250, bees - 1,250, whereas crocodiles kill 2,500 people every year. The stats make crocodiles 168 times more dangerous than sharks. The ultimate killer is the mosquito. They spread malaria - the disease that kills up to 2 million humans every year.

Australians are so effing macho all the time, why are they such pussies when it comes
to sharks?

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Sept. 29, 2012, 9:26 a.m.
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I agree with the concerns in the article. Pulling in a 3500lb fish with a hook through it's mouth has got to cause it massive stress/fatigue. Still, compared to killing them because they mistakenly bite few bony humans…. Fucking makes me livid.

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Sept. 29, 2012, 10:59 a.m.
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Colin Barnett - Liberal Party = Immediate douchebag

diggin

Sept. 30, 2012, 5:10 p.m.
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Ive surfed for over 1/2 of my life and never seen a shark.

Once us humans realize that we occupy a spot somewhere on the lower end of the food chain,will we then start acting like the feeder goldfish that we are.

Pastor of Muppets

Sept. 30, 2012, 5:25 p.m.
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Ive surfed for over 1/2 of my life and never seen a shark.

I've seen loads in my travels, but they are pretty rare to see in most spots.

Once us humans realize that we occupy a spot somewhere on the lower end of the food chain,will we then start acting like the feeder goldfish that we are.

We are too arrogant.

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