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Climate Change - so I'm starting to panic a bit

July 29, 2019, 10:06 a.m.
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Just watching Decoding thew weather machine, a PBS doc on Netflix, its a pretty good summation of wtf is goin on these days. I doubt its gunna change a lot of minds but at least it puts out a bit of the HOW DO THEY KNOW?!?! THE CLIMATES ALWAYS BEEN CHANGING RABBLERABBLE RABBLE.

July 29, 2019, 2:01 p.m.
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Posted by: Adam-West

Just watching Decoding thew weather machine, a PBS doc on Netflix, its a pretty good summation of wtf is goin on these days. I doubt its gunna change a lot of minds but at least it puts out a bit of the HOW DO THEY KNOW?!?! THE CLIMATES ALWAYS BEEN CHANGING RABBLERABBLE RABBLE.

I am always getting older too, but if I woke up one morning with liver spots and cataracts I would assume another factor was at play.

Netflix is doing well on the doc front these days. They have a few good Novas on there now as well. One that I am excited to see soon is called The Family. I read the book a while ago and bored everyone here about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7knN2TXQPzw


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Reason: it sounded like a Trump speech.. must proofread
July 29, 2019, 3:01 p.m.
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Even the Sun?  https://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2019/07/29/Media-Denying-Climate-Crisis-Symbol-Malpractice/

July 30, 2019, 12:45 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: KenN

The arctic is burning ....

https://www.livescience.com/66022-wildfires-burning-arctic.html

I don't want to take away from the seriousness of all the fires in the Arctic, but couldn't we see most wildfires from space?

July 30, 2019, 12:50 a.m.
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For the capitalists.....

https://eeb.org/library/decoupling-debunked/


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July 30, 2019, 8:38 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: KenN

The arctic is burning ....

https://www.livescience.com/66022-wildfires-burning-arctic.html

I don't want to take away from the seriousness of all the fires in the Arctic, but couldn't we see most wildfires from space?

Unfortunate headline that has something of a clickbaity sense about it, but the real takeaway is just how much of the arctic is on fire, and how unprecedented the number and scope of arctic fires.

July 30, 2019, 9 a.m.
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Posted by: KenN

Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: KenN

The arctic is burning ....

https://www.livescience.com/66022-wildfires-burning-arctic.html

I don't want to take away from the seriousness of all the fires in the Arctic, but couldn't we see most wildfires from space?

Unfortunate headline that has something of a clickbaity sense about it, but the real takeaway is just how much of the arctic is on fire, and how unprecedented the number and scope of arctic fires.

I was watching the news this morning about the fires in the arctic and apparently it is extra bad because it is burning a lot of peat that has hundreds of years of carbon stored.  It is always extra bad in ways we don't expect which is part of the reason I worry.

July 30, 2019, 3:31 p.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

I was watching the news this morning about the fires in the arctic and apparently it is extra bad because it is burning a lot of peat that has hundreds of years of carbon stored.  It is always extra bad in ways we don't expect which is part of the reason I worry.

Someone should collect that peat and make an arctic scotch. If you like the Peaty but this is nbr.

July 31, 2019, 8:33 a.m.
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Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I was watching the news this morning about the fires in the arctic and apparently it is extra bad because it is burning a lot of peat that has hundreds of years of carbon stored.  It is always extra bad in ways we don't expect which is part of the reason I worry.

Someone should collect that peat and make an arctic scotch. If you like the Peaty but this is nbr.

I am not a huge fan of peaty scotch actually.  or hoppy beer.  :-/

Aug. 1, 2019, 3:45 p.m.
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In light of Canada’s proposed concept of a so-called First Nation Reconciliation Pipeline, Guujaaw has taken it upon himself to call to all our minds what those basic responsibilities are that those of us of this living time in the earth’s and our own evolution now must do:

“Through the years”, Guujaaw says, “of legal battles and a very measured examination of Aboriginal issues, the Supreme Court of Canada (SCC) has given well-considered definition to Rights and Aboriginal Title in the context of Canada in the modern world. 

Aboriginal Rights are a far-reaching right of the collective, held not only for the present generation but for all succeeding generations. The rights also include an economic component coupled with a very deliberate and appropriate “inherent limit,” which requires that the land “not be used in a way that is irreconcilable with the attachment an Aboriginal group has with the land” nor shall it be encumbered in ways “that would substantially deprive future generations of the benefit of the land.” This is, in fact, a limit that, if applied to all, could go a long way in looking after the earth. 

In difficult times, our people stood to look after our land and restore our rights leaving us a solid legal base from which we can uphold our responsibilities. This changed the legal and political dynamic requiring governments and industries not only to consult, but to make accommodations, while the Supreme Court also called out for “reconciliation.” 

And so it began: out of the sacrifice and efforts of our champions to look after the lands when came the attention of Corporate Oil, with the tried solution of simply buying its way. 

Regardless of owner or name, a pipeline and all that comes with it crosses the “inherent limit” and certainly does not carry any Aboriginal Rights. There is none amongst us of any colour or creed that can claim a right to disregard the neighbour downstream, or who can claim a right to neglect life. There is none amongst us with the right to harm the great killer whale or the little barnacle. 

An Indian pipeline would be a business venture as any other and is not “reconciliation”; rather, an infringement and a threat. 

Be certain that the apparatus killing this planet is a nasty one and it seems intent on finishing the dirty deed. It gains strength through violence with the jack-booted obedient servants at its beck and call. It is commanding enough to recruit our cousins if not you and me. Though it is tough as hell, it’s not that smart. 

Left to its devices this Juggernaut will continue killing our planet, and without intervention our fate is sealed and we may as well prepare a dignified exit, but that would be irresponsible. 

While it must be stopped, don’t wait for the Indigenous people to lead. The Indians are few in number, battle-weary, and, along with the multitudes, distracted by the ballgames and trying to pay the bills. We are too easy to imprison, too easy to kill, and as you see, as fallible as any. 

Be assured, however, that on the front lines the Indigenous people are already standing up for the health of the planet, already standing for basic clean air and water. Most of us love this planet and respect life before money. 

Children all over the world are calling out for us to stop this careless behaviour and fix this disorder. The grown-ups still ignore the symptoms and avoid the cure. 

Reach out across the chasms to your fellow earthlings and devote some time to figuring this thing out. In each of us is some measure of good and understanding of truth, and somewhere in there is the solution. There is no need to put anyone in harm’s way. 

We, the multitudes, allowed it to come to this. We, the creators of the Juggernaut, have got to fix it together.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/08/01/water-not-oil-battle-cry-of-the-blue-planet/

Aug. 2, 2019, 3:07 a.m.
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Posted by: chupacabra

Posted by: aShogunNamedMarcus

Posted by: chupacabra

I was watching the news this morning about the fires in the arctic and apparently it is extra bad because it is burning a lot of peat that has hundreds of years of carbon stored.  It is always extra bad in ways we don't expect which is part of the reason I worry.

Someone should collect that peat and make an arctic scotch. If you like the Peaty but this is nbr.

I am not a huge fan of peaty scotch actually.  or hoppy beer.  :-/

Either am I actually. Was thinking from the rando business perspective on that one though.

Aug. 2, 2019, 11:15 p.m.
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July was the hottest on record.  Not here,  but globally.

Aug. 3, 2019, 6:44 p.m.
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https://public.wmo.int/en/media/news/july-equalled-and-maybe-surpassed-hottest-month-recorded-history

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/aug/03/ipcc-land-use-food-production-key-to-climate-crisis-leaked-report


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Aug. 9, 2019, 4:52 p.m.
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Next: The Climate Crisis is Coming for Your Food

https://www.juancole.com/2019/08/climate-crisis-coming.html

Aug. 13, 2019, 11:52 a.m.
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https://t.co/J9rnyYJq9d


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