Shimano GF800 GTX 4

Go for a ride with a bunch of NSMB contributors and you can gauge your place on the pecking order based on the quality of the goods of others, relative to what you are wearing. Pete and Cam roll up head-to-toe in Rapha, 7 Mesh or Patagonia (The Top Dawgs). Trevor and Deniz are generally rocking fresh, solid, but utilitarian garb (The Lieutenants). Graham could be in anything from torn sweatpants or brand new head-to-toe NF, depending on how long it’s been since he offended somebody in the Whatsapp chat (The Wildcard). You’ll usually find me in some off brand European kit or hand-me-downs sourced from the back of the workshop (The Outcast).

What this teaches you is that if you’re not at the front of the line, you have to work hard for what you get. No. That’s not right. You definitely don’t have to work hard. You have to be vocal and you have to be fast and you have to be lucky. When I saw the press release for these newly launched waterproof Shimano flat pedal shoes (the SH-GF800 GTX, as it were), I just about broke my keyboard hammering out an e-mail to make sure I got to the front of the line. There just aren’t that many waterproof flat pedal shoes available on the market, and I really wasn’t in the mood to fork out for a pair of Five Ten Trailcross.

Shimano GF800 GTX

Simple, yet complicated. Lots going on, but with a clean exterior.

First Impressions

Back when I was a clipless rider, way back at the turn of the millennium, I owned many, many pairs of Shimano shoes. Always solid, always predictable, always a safe bet. Then I found the gospel of flats and Five Tens and barely looked back. I did try a pair of Shimano flat pedal shoes a few years back, to mixed results. Ummm…let’s be honest. To poor results. I found that those shoes looked great, were solid and well built, fit just fine, but suffered in the grip department.

Pulling these out of the box, they carried all of the positives of the AM7’s I tested way back when. They are clean looking, solid and well put together. Putting them on my feet they also felt very similar. On my feet, Shimano shoes feel a little bit boxy and a little bit flat. Not to speculate, but if your feet are a bit girthy, you’ll probably be happy.

Then there are the features; uppers are synthetic, and then you’ve got the Boa closure system. You’ve got the little booty bit and the little flappy bit over where the tongue should be, both in the name of keeping water out. Underneath it all is hiding some Gore-tex. How much? Where? Who knows.

Sole stiffness is medium. Not too stiff or too soft to notice one way or another, but I’m not too particular about that sort of thing.

Riding in the Dry

My first few rides were typical fall shoulder season near Vancouver – a little bit cooler, mostly dry but with the threat of rain. In these conditions, these shoes are fabulous. They have lots of grip and breathe really well. Now, saying that, there are better shoes in both of these categories. Your typical summer riding shoes are going to breathe better than these, but my feet were pretty un-clammy by the end of my rides. Grip wise, most Five Tens are going to give you a teensy bit more grip, but these are easily in line with any of the good non-Five Tens I’ve ridden in the last few years (RC, Northwave). I would happily ride in these shoes all day, every day once things turn autumnal.

Riding in the Wet

Of course, you don’t fork out for Gore-tex shoes based on their dry weather performance. Lucky for us, I think these shoes are even more impressive in the wet. Somehow, grip seems better! I don’t think this is actually the case, but the amount of drop off in grip when wet is so minor that it fools your brain into thinking the grip has gotten better. For me, this is super impressive, especially considering how terrible the AM7’s were (I know I’m beating a dead horse here, but those shoes were hard to ride in. I still own them, for some reason. I never wear them). Shimano claims the rubber is “cold weather optimized,” and I think I just might believe them.

The shoes also do a very, very good job of keeping the water out. So far, I’ve worn them on a handful of wet mountain bike rides (nothing crazy, but wet), a bunch of really, really wet bike commutes, and even some wet mushroom foraging adventures. In all cases, my feet finished up much drier than I was expecting. Long after my pants and jacket had soaked through, the shoes were still going strong and my feet were still happy. Now, like anything Gore-tex, they’re going to soak through at some point, and that’s going to depend on any number of factors. I’ve held off from getting entirely stupid about things, but these shoes have kept my feet dry after facing every challenge that I have thrown at them. Water just doesn’t get into these shoes very easily. Not from my front tire blasting water at my toes, or from water cascading off my soaked through pants, or from stepping in deep puddles or mis-judging a jump over a stream.

Just to be incredibly thorough, in the name of science, I filled up a tray full of water and then stuck my foot in it (shoe on, of course). The water came up to the midpoint of the Boa closure and I left it sitting there for a couple of minutes. The result? Immediately, not much. The outside was cleaner and my foot was still dry. I did find that a few hours later, some water had seeped through and the footbed area was damp. Perhaps some water was held between the various layers of the shoe and eventually soaked in? This supports my conclusion that short term, your feet are going to stay dry and long term, everything eventually succumbs to water.

The Nitpicks

My only real nitpick is that these shoes are not easy to put on. Even if you get your shimmy just right, it takes a bit of wrestling to get them over your heel. Yes, the booty style of this shoe does a great job keeping water out and I don’t want them to change anything with that. But would it kill them to make the pull tabs just a bit longer? Call that a free tip from the land of Blundstones.

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This shot looked great in my phone! Not so much on screen. Shoes were very wet; feet were dry.

Final Thoughts

There are going to be some jealous folks on my next NSMB group ride. These are a really great product, almost without fault. They work really well, whether it’s raining outside or not. Grip is great. Breathability is great. Water resistance is great. Indeed, I’m pretty much wearing these shoes every time I head into the woods right now, whether a bicycle is involved or not. I give them a solid 9 out of 10, but that’s only because I’m leaving room for shoes that are further down the start list, just in case.

Many of you will wonder if you should buy these or the Five Ten Trailcross Gore-tex. Now, I haven’t worn those shoes, largely because when I wanted to buy a pair last winter, nobody had them in stock. Taking a quick look around, you could probably find a pair for slightly cheaper than the 220 USD/300 CAD that Shimano is asking for. It seems like if you’re willing to spend that sort of money on a pair of Gore-tex shoes you probably can’t go wrong with either. I’d suggest picking whichever pair suits your use case and fit your feet.

Now, how fantastic is it now that flat pedal riders have not one, but two choices in shoes once the rain starts to fly? . It will be interesting to see how they hold up long term (and it will likely be worth a follow up). Yes, this is a lot of money for shoes but for anybody planning on spending much time riding in the rain, I would view these as a good investment.

Shimano SH-GF800 GTX Flat Pedal Shoes

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HughJass
+9 Cr4w FlipSide SixZeroSixOne shenzhe cornedbeef Velocipedestrian mudhoney Timer Eric Schuler

I just want to know where Andrew Major lands in the line up with chopped up vests and 10 year old wool garments?

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AndyJK
+3 Skooks @canopyclosure Vik Banerjee

Rocky Gore-Tex socks also solve winter footwear dillemas.  They tuck under my waterproof pant legs.  

Pick any flat pedal shoe you like!

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craw
+3 Pete Roggeman Timer Kristian Øvrum

But then the shoe still gets soaked. I tried the waterproof sock route but I definitely prefer the warm/wicking sock wrapped in a waterproof shoe. Hard to beat the waterproof sock for value and versatility though.

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Ride.DMC
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A buddy of mine who prefers riding in shorts year round will use the waterproof sock & Goretex riding shoe combo - but being someone who prefers to wear riding pants (especially September - June), I get by just fine with wool socks & goretex riding shoes.

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Kenny
+1 Metacomet

Yeah shoes that soak up 10lbs of water and take forever to dry are just a pain. 

I also find with my trail Cross GTX that my feet still get pretty wet unless I have pants on that really stay properly "overlapped" over the cuffs of the shoe. 

Obviously rain will come in the top and especially if your socks are longer than the shoes (I actually need to try getting some "no show" super short socks) they'll wick water straight in, so using waterproof shoes with shorts is mostly pointless for me.

The trailcross GTX have super stiff and super grippy soles which doesn't work for me, I can't feel the pedal or locate my feet properly. 

I just ordered some of the Fizik Nanuk GTX flats which are more like boots and I am hoping will actually play double duty as winter boots when taking the kids tobogganing and such. 

I had some fixik shoes previously which were awesome but slightly too small (apparently common to have to size up with fizik). I sized up this time so should be interesting. They are expensive but especially if they double duty for snow days with kids I'll get a lot of use out of them.

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Ride.DMC
+2 Pete Roggeman Dr.Flow

I have been riding in the 5-10 Trailcross GTX for a couple winters now (this will be winter #3, I think).  I can tell you that they are probably equally difficult to slip on...  

One of the most underrated aspects of these GTX riding shoes - or at least the part that doesn't get talked about much but is really appreciated once you try it is the ability to just blast yourself with the garden hose after you've hosed down your bike to get all the mud off of your riding pants, and still have dry feet.

After really sloppy rides I sometimes just get the kids to hose me down.  They get a kick out of it and my wife appreciates that I am getting 99% of the mud off before tossing my entire wet weather riding kit (aside from the shoes) into the washer.  The shoes go on the shoe dryer.

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pete@nsmb.com
+1 Bryce Borlick

Underrated feature! Totally agree. Makes such a difference. End of the ride, the hose down is mandatory (bike first, then body) but knowing your already chilly feet aren't going to get sent to arctic town when you hose them down is nice.

Shoe dryer is a must. As is getting the mud out before the washing machine - don't any of you wait until you ruin a washing machine to learn that lesson.

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Endur-Bro
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My last WBP day this season was complete with a rinse down of my Leatt Monosuit and TrailCross GTX before heading back to my truck

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LoamtoHome
+1 Bryce Borlick

Shimano have the best clipless shoes....  they last forever and the ankle loam guard is a game changer.

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rnayel
+1 Pete Roggeman

Picked up a pair of the 5/10 goretex flats last year directly from addidas during one o their 40% off sales. On really wet days, I wear them with Endura waterproof socks. They've been great. Even when they do get wet, they don't get uncomfortably so.

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KawaBunghole
+1 Deniz Merdano

Unrelated to shoes (but still related to gear), is there an NSMB t-shirt or long sleeve jersey available? When I click the 'Shop' link on the toolbar, it says that the store is unavailable.

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pete@nsmb.com
+2 Deniz Merdano BarryW

We decommissioned the shop temporarily, but new gear is being worked on and will be here soon! Make sure you're subscribed to the newsletter - subs will get first crack at everything when we release it.

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andrewbikeguide
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There is obviously a limit (somewhere) but just like the Mastercard ads used to say: having warm and dry feet, at the end of a wet (and probably cold) ride, is priceless.

As a clip rider I live in my Shimano MW-702 shoes for a good chunk of the 'shoulder' season and for less cold (down to -10ºC) fat bike rides once the white stuff has taken over the trails.

I highly recommend 'upgrading' them with Esker Insoles.

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craw
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I've been wearing the same pair of MW-501s for 5 years now. They're amazing.

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pete@nsmb.com
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Review of those is coming soon. I've got the last gen - the MW701 - and they're great. In the past I had the MW5s like Cr4w and for the money, they're hard to beat for a waterproof clipless shoe.

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craw
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What's the main difference in the MW701s? I see the BOAs. Are they insulated too?

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Matthew_Cusanelli
+2 Pete Roggeman Cam McRae

What Top Dawg Pete said! I'm getting along nicely with the MW702's thus far and have spent quite a bit of time on the MW701's as well. I'll touch on a comparison in the review, thanks.

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boniface
+1 Andrew Major

Thanks for the Esker plug! Manages moisture, temperature and footwear funk. A win for everyone:)

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bryce-borlick
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You use clips on a fatbike? Don’t the cleats get all clogged w ice?

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tmoore
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Anyone looking for e-shoes/work boots, check out the Dunlop Purofort Full Safety. They have great grip on and off the bike, they're waterproof, have excellent protection, and the heel hold is surprisingly good for a rubber boot.

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pete@nsmb.com
+2 tmoore Jerry Willows

Those look like great rubber boots but I can't imagine riding in them unless I'm heading up with tools to go work on something.

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LoamtoHome
+7 Deniz Merdano Kever Matt Cusanelli Pete Roggeman mudhoney tmoore Bryce Borlick

if you need rubber boots to ride, it's too wet to ride.  Grab a shovel instead. #someonewillfixthetrails

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tmoore
+3 Bryce Borlick Cam McRae BarryW

Ride to work is the theme

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XXX_er
+1 BarryW

I don't think I would ride in them but the rockerd knobby tire soles of the purofort are great for traction, a safety toe, I have worn these alot for the bush, running a survey stick, running saw ect, they are really popular at the mines,

they are PU not rubber so more comfy and have better traction on downed trees

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fatfootguy
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How is the fit on these compared to the 5 10?

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XXX_er
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Shimano must fit a lot of people but not me, too roomy thru the arch I have bought & given away a couple pair

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BarryW
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You could try a higher arch support insole. I've known that to work for some at least regarding ski or hiking boots.

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XXX_er
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that ^^ doesnt really cut it, i just buy specialized which do work

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