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Dec. 14, 2010, 8:16 a.m.
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so dude is wanted for questioning, makes interpol's most wanted list, for a charge that if found guilty of carries a $700 fine…..and has to pony up nearly 400,000 for bail? really?? that's f'ed, straight up. nice for our governments to show us how corrupt they really are, not that any of us are really surprised……

Dec. 14, 2010, 3:22 p.m.
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Or until the people get up off their ass' and rip shit up. History has shown that usually happens.. or at least speculated that mass upheavals and riots cause some downfalls through time.

Until their ripping shit up turns into the new agenda/dogma and a lot of people are unhappy about the status quo…but nobody wants to do anything as long as panem et circensem is at their hands.

"You don't learn from experience. You learn from reflecting on the experience."
- Kristen Ulmer

Dec. 14, 2010, 3:26 p.m.
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Joined: June 29, 2006

Michael Moore offers bail, help to WikiLeaks

Just in case the right needed some additional reasons to despise Moore.

Dec. 14, 2010, 6:46 p.m.
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Joined: June 14, 2008

Michael Moore offers bail, help to WikiLeaks

Just in case the right needed some additional reasons to despise Moore.

Good for publicity…

Asange is out now, US cant wait to get there hands on him and charge him with espionage. But can figure head of a company be charged with that for only publishing information that was given to them, no actual espionage was done on their part.

Dec. 14, 2010, 6:58 p.m.
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Funny that the US was totally cool with previous leaks dealing with Kenya, that went on to land him an Amnesty Internation Media award. But if it's about the US, well that's just espionage.

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Dec. 15, 2010, 4:16 a.m.
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I ride Bikes

Dec. 15, 2010, 7:02 p.m.
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Joined: June 14, 2008

wake up sheeple…

ha i said it.

Dec. 16, 2010, 8:30 a.m.
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Joined: Feb. 3, 2006

Funny that the US was totally cool with previous leaks dealing with Kenya, that went on to land him an Amnesty Internation Media award. But if it's about the US, well that's just espionage.

Worse than that, they only grumbled when he leaked the Afghanistan war logs and the video of the Apache killing a couple of journalists. They weren't upset until Assange announced that he was going to leak documents from a main stream American bank (reportedly Bank of America) that would highlight among other things, political corruption and predatory lending practices. After that announcement is when Palin et all started calling for his assassination, the White house started calling him a Hi-tech terrorist (oddly enough, it's basically the only bi-partisan event that has taken place this year) and the "rape" charges re-appeared.

Dec. 16, 2010, 9:32 a.m.
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In authoritarian countries, information networks are helping people discover new facts and making governments more accountable… technologies with the potential to open up access to government and promote transparency can also be hijacked by governments to crush dissent and deny human rights… As in the dictatorships of the past, governments are targeting independent thinkers who use these tools.

Um ya.

Dec. 16, 2010, 10:01 a.m.
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Joined: Aug. 4, 2004

WikiLeaks: Swedish government 'hid' anti-terror operations with America from Parliament

The Swedish government asked American officials to keep intelligence-gathering [HTML_REMOVED]#8220;informal[HTML_REMOVED]#8221; to help avoid Parliamentary scrutiny, American diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks show.

The secret cables, seen by The Daily Telegraph, disclose how Swedish officials wanted discussions about anti-terrorism operations kept from public scrutiny.

They describe how officials from the Swedish Ministry of Justice and Ministry of Foreign Affairs had a [HTML_REMOVED]#8220;strong degree of satisfaction with current informal information sharing arrangements[HTML_REMOVED]#8221; with the American government.

Making the arrangement formal would result in the need for it to be disclosed to Parliament, they said.

They disclose officials[HTML_REMOVED]#8217; fear that intense Swedish Parliamentary scrutiny could place [HTML_REMOVED]#8220;a wide range of law enforcement and anti-terrorism[HTML_REMOVED]#8221; operations in jeopardy.

Under the heading [HTML_REMOVED]#8220;teams visits to discuss terrorist screening information exchange with Sweden[HTML_REMOVED]#8221;, they show Dr Anna-Karin Svensson, Director of the Division for Police Issues, saying the Swedish government would strike controversy if its intelligence methods were disclosed.

The cable claimed that the "current Swedish political climate makes any formal terrorist screening information agreement highly difficult". Swedish citizens are said to place high value on the country[HTML_REMOVED]#8217;s neutrality.

"The MOJ team expressed their appreciation for the flexibility of the U.S. side in regards to memorialising any agreement," said the cable.

"They expressed a strong degree of satisfaction with current informal information sharing arrangements with the U.S., and wondered whether the putative advantages of an HSPD-6 agreement for Sweden would be offset by the risk that these existing informal channels, which cover a wide range of law enforcement and anti-terrorism co-operation, would be scrutinised more intensely by Parliament and perhaps jeopardised.

"Dr. Svensson reiterated MFA concerns about the current political atmosphere in Sweden."

It continued: "She believed that, given Swedish constitutional requirements to present matters of national concern to Parliament and in light of the ongoing controversy over Sweden's recently passed surveillance law, it would be politically impossible for the Minister of Justice to avoid presenting any formal data sharing agreement with the United States to Parliament for review.
"In her opinion, the effect of this public spotlight could also place other existing informal information sharing arrangements at jeopardy."

The publication of the new cables, sent to Washington from the American embassy in Stockholm in 2008, came after Julian Assange, the Wikileaks founder, was granted bail on Tuesday over sexual assault claims in Sweden.

Dec. 16, 2010, 10:04 a.m.
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Despite a judge ordering his release with strict conditions and$200,000 guarantee from high profile supporters, the Swedish authorities appealed, meaning the 39 year-old remains behind bars. Wikileaks claimed the new cables, which discuss terrorist screening programs, added weight to suggestions that Sweden and America were engaged in [HTML_REMOVED]#8220;back room deals[HTML_REMOVED]#8221;.

Mark Stephens, Mr Assange[HTML_REMOVED]#8217;s lawyer, has claimed his client was facing a [HTML_REMOVED]#8220;show trial[HTML_REMOVED]#8221; and his case was politically motivated. The Swedish government denies the claims.
Kristinn Hrafnsson, a Wikileaks spokesman, said that the website was [HTML_REMOVED]#8220;concerned about political influence on the prosecution of Julian Assange[HTML_REMOVED]#8221;.

[HTML_REMOVED]#8220;The new revelations contained in the Swedish cables [HTML_REMOVED]#8230; shed some light on the ferocity of the Swedish prosecutorial process in this case,[HTML_REMOVED]#8221; he said.

[HTML_REMOVED]#8220;The prosecutor has said there is [HTML_REMOVED]#8216;no condition[HTML_REMOVED]#8217; for bail that will satisfy them.[HTML_REMOVED]#8221;

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