Okay Dave I'll bite.
First off let's not get into the "who is setting a better example" argument.
When I am an on xc trail and a guy rips by on a MC of any kind and does damage I see an issue. Next time I will take a pic of all the mini roosts.
We were on Wonderland on a Sunday afternoon. If you have a motor than go way "Out There". Problem with most motorized folks is they often lack the awareness and tact that the average MTBer has.
All groups have bad seeds.
Mult-Use trail thing in Squam would pack more weight if any actual trials risers showed up on a SORCA trail day. Not a trials/MTB combo person. A trials only person.
This issue will continue to be contentious as more people buy trials bikes. Blaming the jetting? 2-strokes blow blue wether they are jetted right or not. C'mon Dave I've been motoing longer than you can obviously realize.
Giving Ted a hard time generally requires a brave human.
So lets me get this right…because a dirt bike or trials bike has a moto than it should go further out? By that statement then everything within a 10-15km radius from any road should belong to hikers, mountain bikers would then own the 15km to say 30km and moto would own 30km and further? You have just shut every trail in squamish to mountain bikers, good job, that is how silly your statement is.
I would say the average moto rider is the same as the average mountain biker, they ride, they want flowy single track and they have to look to find it…and most don't care where it is, more that they have it, Somewhere Over There is a perfect example of this, it was supposed to be shut, mtb'rs still rode and ride it, they don't care that it was build illegally by Gary, he was even told by SORCA to stop, he did not, he just kept telling riders to ride it…
The difference of trail building that you don't see that is different than trials over moto and mtb is that almost every guy who trials rides does trail work, they do it quietly and on their own without a big day about it. Spencer created Tamiami or Spencers Gay Ride in Crumpit and it is used by a lot of mountain bikers. The difference also is trials Riders are inclusive, not exclusive like your ideals are. Plus why would a trials rider go to a SOCRA Day, You don't go to the Trials Trail Building Days. The reason?
Also many riders do both and you might not even know about it….you don't have to go to a SORCA trail day or NSMBA trail day to show your support, I have never gone to one but have logged a lot of time and hours in mtb, trials and moto, I have also donate money, time and videos so there are many ways.
Weak arguments and statements Corey….every user who uses a trail takes something out of it, they wear the trail, but they see nature and experience highs and lows and love it! That is what every person deserves and has the ability on multi-use trails, if you don't like to share then al you have to do is buy some land build a trail and let only who you choose to on it. Like I always say, the difference of people who live in third world countries over a 1st world country is they have very little and will share it with everyone, here we have everything and want it all for ourselves. 20 Years of travelling the world and racing taught me that lesson and I am surprised still to this day how many people don't get it..
