eat red meat - here's why

for a long time the medical community has said to limit the amount of red meat you eat b/c it's linked to heart disease and cancer. the reality is that fresh red meat is good for you, even necessary. the myth evolved out of bad science in the 50's that lumped red meat in with processed meats (deli meats) and didn't consider other dietary factors as well.

it's a great read if you're interested. if not, go have a steak anyways.

http://www.westonaprice.org/food-features/its-the-beef

The only claim that can be made against beef as a cause of heart disease is that some studies have shown beef consumption to temporarily raise cholesterol levels in short term feeding experiments. Other studies have shown that beef consumption, including beef fat consumption, lowers cholesterol levels. But even if all studies show that beef consumption raises cholesterol levels, the only conclusion you can draw is—so what? There is no greater risk of heart disease at cholesterol levels of 300 than at 180, and people with cholesterol levels below 180 are at greater risk of death from other causes, such as cancer, intestinal diseases, accidents, violence and suicide.5 In other words, it's much more dangerous to have cholesterol levels that are too low than cholesterol levels that are too high

I didn't need no scientist to tell me this.

That's a hilariously biased website. Yeeee haaaaw!

id rather be dead then give up beef for tofu..

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Meh … a lot of these studies are meaningless anyways. You can believe them or not and let your confirmational bias take over. Also, Bacon, thankfully is not a red meat. So no need to panic.

These studies are not really "science" even though they apply the scientific method. They have an experimental group and a control group. But a lot of the data is short-term, and relies of self-reporting and self-selected populations. You would have to lock people up for years in controlled environments and feed them regimented diets to get "scientific data". Dr Mengele, where have you gone?

The article mentions the Masai tribe,

There are many societies where the populace consumes high levels of animal food and saturated fat but remains free of heart disease. Dr. George Mann, who studied the Masai cattle herding peoples in Africa, found no heart disease, even though their diet consisted of meat, blood and rich milk.

A Masai man who reaches the age of 20 has a life expectancy of 45 years (this figure is used to exempt childhood mortality which you would expect to be high in traditional societies)

http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/264/1/Maasai_Demography_PhD.pdf

For example, if you eat caviar and drink champagne a lot, you will probably live longer, be healthier and be wealthy. We know the biggest predictor of longevity and health is personal wealth. If you are rich, you have more access to education, medical services, better food, lower stress, a safe environment to live and work, cleaner water, air and food.

If you eat caviar and drink champagne, you are probably wealthy to begin with (or is it the reverse?). But does eating caviar and drinking champagne make you richer, healthier, and more educated? Probably not. The data shows only correlation and not causality.

I think we all know that a varied diet with all types of whole, unprocessed foods, while not guaranteeing you health, is probably the way to go. And if you like red meat, include some red meat in your diet too.

I think we all know that a varied diet with all types of whole, unprocessed foods, while not guaranteeing you health, is probably the way to go. And if you like red meat, include some red meat in your diet too.

I don't think that ^^ is a safe assumption because depending on what article you want to believe the diet industry is worth billions in NA

you don't have to eat a 16oz steak every night but a 6 oz steak once or twice a week is good fuel

That's a hilariously biased website. Yeeee haaaaw!

why do you think it's biased?

you don't have to eat a 16oz steak every night but a 6 oz steak once or twice a week is good fuel

Only if it is on Jenny Craig's list.

id rather be dead then give up beef for tofu..

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Seeing as we are omnivores, I find it hilarious that 'Health Conscious People' actually think that a highly processed, majorly GMO'd foodstuff is actually good for you, or a better option to a properly raised animal.

Mmmm, had an 8 ounce steak, baked Yam and broccoli for lunch. So tasty….

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That's a hilariously biased website. Yeeee haaaaw!

HAHAHA hell yeah.

It's obvious this site is funded by big dairy and meat industry.
They always make fake grass roots campaigns to try and deter people from going vegetarian, going vegan or even choosing organic because quite frankly that stuff scares them.
This isn't a source.

First of all who IS "Weston A Price"?
He has a wiki…he's a dentist from the 19th century….
Here is an article about that website and foundation, albeit maybe from an equally biased site but at least you can see both sides of the story and make your own judgment.
<http://www.vegsource.com/news/2010/07/the-truth-about-the-weston-price-foundation.html>

HAHAHA hell yeah.

It's obvious this site is funded by big dairy and meat industry.
They always make fake grass roots campaigns to try and deter people from going vegetarian, going vegan or even choosing organic because quite frankly that stuff scares them.
This isn't a source.

First of all who IS "Weston A Price"?
He has a wiki…he's a dentist from the 19th century….
Here is an article about that website and foundation, albeit maybe from an equally biased site but at least you can see both sides of the story and make your own judgment.
<http://www.vegsource.com/news/2010/07/the-truth-about-the-weston-price-foundation.html>

the basis of the article is that red meat is not necessarily the evil it's purported to be. it's not so much about being anti-vegan, but not about being anti meat from a personal health perspective.

if you read through their bio section you'll find that the farming methods they support are not in line with big agri-biz but in fact quite the opposite. if you're curious about who backs them you can do some reading on their website.

http://www.westonaprice.org/about-the-foundation/wapf-funding/

The main sources of support for the Weston A. Price Foundation are the dues and contributions of its members. The Foundation receives no funding from any government agency or food processing corporation. Although many of our members are farmers, the Foundation has no ties with the meat or dairy industry, nor with any organization promoting these industries. The Foundation promotes the production of food by independent farmers and artisans, and not by industry.

vegetables are what food eats

The local butcher sources local products and is very sucessful in spite of charging [HTML_REMOVED] safeway, I asked him what that last listeriosus scare did for business and buddy said it doubled his ground beef sales overnight which might indicate big agri-business scared a lot of local folk away from the grocery store?

its pretty easy to find local poultry/pork/goat/sheep/beef is you want it