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Specialized Quietly Goes 650B

Feb. 24, 2014, 9:18 a.m.
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What's going to happen when 650b sales go flat and people aren't buying new bikes? Someone is going to have come up with another wheel size or go back to the "playful and fun" 26".

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Feb. 24, 2014, 9:41 a.m.
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Couple seasons? Many seasons. What will be the actual percentage of 27.5 on the dirt compared to 26" and 29" next year? The year after? If 26" product (tires, forks, etc) drop off next year or the year after, that would be a poor financial move, especially for tire manufactures, at least in the short term. And especially for Specialized who are still selling 10k carbon 26" Wunderbikes :-) I have a hard time believing all the riders that just bought that 26" machines in the last couple years will flip them for a wheel size. Sure some will, especially the racers that want that coveted 1 second advantage (you know after they tapped out all other ways of getting that advantage), or 29er owners that aren't stoked on their long travel 29er….and new bike buyers of course that simply don't like 29".

It's a funny bike bubble we live in here. I was back in Nanaimo the other weekend, and out of the several riders I saw on Doumont, one dropper post, mo Kashima, no Pikes, WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THOSE PEOPLE? :mullet:

i'd say that when you finally see 27.5" bikes or 29'ers dominating the aisles of places like costco, walmart, london drugs, canadian tire, etc that then you can say the 26" wheeled bike is dead.

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Feb. 24, 2014, 9:46 a.m.
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What's going to happen when 650b sales go flat and people aren't buying new bikes? Someone is going to have come up with another wheel size or go back to the "playful and fun" 26".

for sure. though they'd have to be rebranded of course. something like 625A perhaps.

given the trend towards super buffed trails (not complaining), the benefits of bigger hoops will become less significant, and people will start looking for lighter, faster accelerating wheel solutions. et voila, 26'ers are all the rage again.

I like to think i'm avant garde with my small wheels.

Feb. 24, 2014, 9:52 a.m.
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given the trend towards super buffed trails (not complaining), the benefits of bigger hoops will become less significant, and people will start looking for lighter, faster accelerating wheel solutions. et voila, 26'ers are all the rage again.

I think you mean jumpier trails. On buff smooth trails bigger wheels will be an advantage.

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Feb. 24, 2014, 10:37 a.m.
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On buff smooth trails bigger wheels will be an advantage.

on our typical tight buff trails where you're sprinting between corners? perhaps i'm missing something.

ugh; wheel size talk is boring anyways. lets talk about snow! some sweet sliding to be had right now!

Feb. 24, 2014, 11:09 a.m.
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What's going to happen when 650b sales go flat and people aren't buying new bikes? Someone is going to have come up with another wheel size or go back to the "playful and fun" 26".

Nope … it will be the 26.75". It has all the benefits of a 27.5" and none of the drawbacks of a 26". You'd be crazy to ever dust off your old 26" bike and ride it when the 26.75 comes out.

Feb. 24, 2014, 11:11 a.m.
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Feb. 24, 2014, 11:15 a.m.
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on our typical tight buff trails where you're sprinting between corners? perhaps i'm missing something.

ugh; wheel size talk is boring anyways. lets talk about snow! some sweet sliding to be had right now!

I really have no way of knowing. On an XL bike you do the best you can in tight corners regardless of wheel size. Though I find my 29er actually corners way better than any 26" bike I've owned though this could be about body position on the bike relative to BB drop, or some other thing.

That being said, yes, snow.

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Feb. 24, 2014, 12:17 p.m.
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I really have no way of knowing. On an XL bike you do the best you can in tight corners regardless of wheel size. Though I find my 29er actually corners way better than any 26" bike I've owned though this could be about body position on the bike relative to BB drop, or some other thing.

That being said, yes, snow.

You're both right. You don't get the roll-over advantage of the 29er on the buff trails but you get better cornering traction so there is less sprinting to get back up to speed.

I'm going for a snow ride - right now!

Feb. 24, 2014, 4:48 p.m.
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What's going to happen when 650b sales go flat and people aren't buying new bikes? Someone is going to have come up with another wheel size or go back to the "playful and fun" 26".

I'd happily ditch all three sizes for 28".

I think.

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Feb. 24, 2014, 5:01 p.m.
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Someone is going to have come up with another wheel size or go back to the "playful and fun" 26".

We haven't done 24" wheels in more than a decade.

Feb. 24, 2014, 8:33 p.m.
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What's going to happen when 650b sales go flat and people aren't buying new bikes? Someone is going to have come up with another wheel size or go back to the "playful and fun" 26".

It's just like I said to Lou 4 or 5 years ago when 29ers were first coming out as soon a they were popular 650b would be the next rage and after that maybe some genius will reintroduce the 26er as the best all round wheel to have.You can all keep chasing the latest trend I'll stick with my 26er and who know maybe in a year or three I'll be a trend setter :)

The raw, primitive, unrefined trails that see little to no maintenance are the kinds of trails that really build skill. What kind of skills do you learn riding a trail that was made by a machine, groomed to perfection and void of any rocks, roots or other obstacles that could send you careening over the handlebars?

Feb. 24, 2014, 8:37 p.m.
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It's just like I said to Lou 4 or 5 years ago when 29ers were first coming out as soon a they were popular 650b would be the next rage and after that maybe some genius will reintroduce the 26er as the best all round wheel to have.You can all keep chasing the latest trend I'll stick with my 26er and who know maybe in a year or three I'll be a trend setter :)

Or the outlier groups are quietly thankful there are finally some additional options that suit them better than the one-size-fits-most they've been living with their whole lives. I don't totally understand the industry motive for 650b but there is a place for 29ers. They offer a totally viable and justifiable alternative for some types of riding that is distinctly different than 26".

650b does strike awfully close to 26" and so I can see that it feels a bit forced.

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Feb. 24, 2014, 9:23 p.m.
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It's the marketing size :)

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Feb. 24, 2014, 10:35 p.m.
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I'd happily ditch all three sizes for 28".

I think.

The 'funny' thing being that (modern) 28" rims are the same size as 29" rims. And both are smaller than 27".

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