Refuge is definitely a better hard-person commuter pant, do you mountain bike in them as well? I LOVE Showers Pass waterproof socks but all their rain gear I’ve tried on I’d call too bulky for mountain biking. Could just be I haven’t come across their whole catalogue. Had a buddy complaining the other day that he couldn’t find good commuter pants anywhere. Specifically looking for Gore Bike Wear C3 Active (man if those pants had the cut and features of the Agent they could just take my money) and all he could find where cheap non-breathable pants that aren’t even that cheap. From a retail perspective it’s crazy to me. I mean, New Years Resolutions are still a thing - surely there’s plenty of folks looking to spend on rain gear so they can have a chance of hitting their 2x rides to work a week goal?
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