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March 17, 2024, 3:15 a.m.
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Posted by: fartymarty

Or https://www.microshift.com/models/cs-h083-12-46t/

I hope Shimano brings something like this out for CUES.

Yes to options!

March 17, 2024, 5:11 a.m.
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Posted by: fartymarty

Or https://www.microshift.com/models/cs-h083-12-46t/

I hope Shimano brings something like this out for CUES.

Still waiting to see all the CUES SKUs show up at shops! A 9-speed 11-46 (U4000) supposedly exists - I’ve never seen one but I’m certainly curious. 

I’m guessing the 11-speed chain and shift spacing improves big-cog chainline compared to old-timey eightness. Can you use an 11-speed chain on Acolyte? They were the best for durability from what I remember.

March 17, 2024, 8:44 a.m.
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I put a 9s Cues 11-46 on my buddy’s commuter bike with an U4000 derailleur and shifter a couple of weeks ago. Took off the 3x8 stuff and refreshed the drivetrain. It came from my Uncle Ali in China, because it was too hard to find locally  

Works so great, I was very pleasantly surprised. I/he got the Linkglide chain to go with but I think anything 11s would have worked ok. He’s a bigger guy (for a cyclist) and has a history of breaking pedals and cranks and stuff from big torque so the burliness of LG should serve him well.

March 17, 2024, 9:32 a.m.
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Seems like eight speed something with the 3/32" chain might be nice from a durability perspective.

In olden times, I remember rarely breaking chains with 3/32"  (5-8 speeds), then suddenly often breaking chains with the drop down to whatever pinner width 9 speed (and above) is.

March 17, 2024, 9:59 a.m.
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Posted by: Hepcat

Seems like eight speed something with the 3/32" chain might be nice from a durability perspective.

In olden times, I remember rarely breaking chains with 3/32"  (5-8 speeds), then suddenly often breaking chains with the drop down to whatever pinner width 9 speed (and above) is.

That’s the odd number/even number Shimano execution factor.

March 17, 2024, 10:17 a.m.
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Posted by: Hepcat

Seems like eight speed something with the 3/32" chain might be nice from a durability perspective.

In olden times, I remember rarely breaking chains with 3/32"  (5-8 speeds), then suddenly often breaking chains with the drop down to whatever pinner width 9 speed (and above) is.

Well, currently am at 9 speed. This 8 speed will be next. Funny how less cassette cogs and end up using more cogs. 

March 17, 2024, 11:42 a.m.
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Posted by: Hepcat

Seems like eight speed something with the 3/32" chain might be nice from a durability perspective.

In olden times, I remember rarely breaking chains with 3/32"  (5-8 speeds), then suddenly often breaking chains with the drop down to whatever pinner width 9 speed (and above) is.

I use KMC quick links with my Shimano 10 speed HG95 chains and (touch wood) haven't broken a chain in years.

March 17, 2024, 6:05 p.m.
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26" bikes also put less stress on the chain than 29ers. You need more drivetrain reduction for a given final ratio with 29, which means a proportional increase in chain tension.

March 28, 2024, 1:50 p.m.
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April 14, 2024, 10:26 a.m.
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Posted by: Kenny

26" bikes also put less stress on the chain than 29ers. You need more drivetrain reduction for a given final ratio with 29, which means a proportional increase in chain tension.

Are you sure about that? Power at the crank is independent of the tire.

April 14, 2024, 10:48 a.m.
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Without putting on a pocket protector, seems to make sense...? 

If the difference was more exaggerated, say a rear wheel wheel 100 feet tall made of stone, would that properly illustrate a difference in chain stress?

April 15, 2024, 12:52 p.m.
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Posted by: ClydeRide

Posted by: Kenny

26" bikes also put less stress on the chain than 29ers. You need more drivetrain reduction for a given final ratio with 29, which means a proportional increase in chain tension.

Are you sure about that? Power at the crank is independent of the tire.

Yes, but larger wheels usually require lower gearing (smaller chain ring/larger cog), which DOES impact chain tension.

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