Lee, you have to understand that reasonable conversation cannot continue when
others want to call those in opposition nasty names, and taunt, rather than to
discuss the issues at hand. Since this is also being written on NSMB.com
"turf", it is no place for naysayers.
I am not condoning what Ms. Kraal did, but in her doing it, I see her more as
rather naive, but determined. I sympathize with her because I understand her
frustration. I have heard many stories from people over the years about hiker-
biker conflicts on the North Shore, and elsewhere. It is not all "smelling
like roses" in the woods. Don't fool yourself into thinking that it is.
What if some mountain bikers were fined, or charged, rather than rewarded, for
"unsanctioned" activities inside the public forests, and DNV did not go out of
their way to "sanction" the trails in 2008, but to enforce their many
environmental protection laws/bylaws, etc.? You would all be in the same boat
as Ms. Kraal.
There are many of us who see what mountain bikers are doing as a form of
ecological vandalism, and "sabotage" of a different sort. We have very
different worldviews. Never the twain shall meet.
That is all I have left to say, here. Another time, another place… maybe, Lee.
Why were these incidents not reported to DNV, much earlier, if this was the
case? And, if it was, why did DNV do nothing to resolve the issue before it
got to this point? That is what has been bothering me about this whole issue.
Also, why was the Kraal's letter not taken seriously by the District, and the
mountain biking community, at the time?
I just see DNV giving the dirty work for the MTB community to do, in more ways
than just with this issue. You may not see it that way, but there is a lot of
things happening that do not make any sense, when you stop to take a look at
the bigger picture.
I spoke with Mayor Walton, recently, about my concerns, and he told me point
blank that the District has no control over what goes on inside their
mountains! That took me by surprise, but also explained a lot. It seems to
mean a carte blanche for the MTB community, but it could also become a greater
liability for it, also.
This is troubling news. And it should be for you, too. I believe the MTB
community is being "used" by the District, for whatever means to an end. I am
no longer angry, just resigned to the fate of Fromme -- whatever that may
become. And soon, the fate of the Upper Lands in Cypress…
Too bad the Kraals never spoke to me in the early years. I could have told
them that it was futile to try to stop mountain bikers with logs and rocks, or
whatever, and wrong. Even words, like mine, don't seem to make a dent in the
MTB wave. So be it! But, as the old story goes -- one wrong will get punished,
while MTBing wrongs have been rewarded. Go figure, eh? "Lovely".
I will now take my leave from this futile conversation on MTB issues. What
will be, will be.
That sounds more like a description of the mountain biking collective, Gord.
You bikers have taken too much and want so much more. You clap when people
like Tina are caught, but applaud those from within the MTB community who do
the same. (See my comment to "Matt", below). I am just pointing out the
obvious. There is a clear double standard, here.