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Jan. 3, 2006, 4:57 p.m.
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I feel ill

Writers do get paid to come up with this kind of crap you know. Its not like this is the inner workings of there head everyday. Writers sit down and think how they can be different and come up with something fresh.

Saying its sick of the writer to write that is dumb.

I'm just amazed and disgusted at what writers can come up with. It would never occur to me to write a story like that. Would you be able to sit down and think of ways to torture people for hours and hours? No way, not me.

Jan. 3, 2006, 2:20 p.m.
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I feel ill

Men Behind The Sun:

OMG! Is that shit real?

Jan. 3, 2006, 11:42 a.m.
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I feel ill

Try Salo, then you'll feel ill.

Salo? Do I want to know?

Jan. 3, 2006, 11:39 a.m.
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I feel ill

http://www.darkhorizons.com/2006/hostel.php

Jan. 3, 2006, 11:31 a.m.
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I feel ill

I just saw the trailer for the new movie "Hostel" and read the synopsis. I feel like I'm gonna puke.

For those of you who don't know, the movie centers around three friends travelling in Eastern Europe who are unwittingly rounded up and tortured by rich businessmen who pay money to live out their sick fantasies.

I know it's not real, but am I the only one who is disturbed that some people (namely the writers of such movies) think like this? Writers of such crap are truely sick and I find it scarey that they walk among us!

Dec. 4, 2005, 1:29 p.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

If you're being loyal to one shop, they should give you a discount without you asking for it. QUOTE]

I said sometimes, not always.

Dec. 4, 2005, 7:50 a.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

Thad, service is a commodity - the shop employs experienced staff (in essence buying labour) and sells it at a certain rate. I don't EXPECT free labour, nor would I ask for it, but either way a mechnic still gets paid the same….unless he is the shop owner and his pay is a percentage of revenue.

As for customers expecting discounts - doesn't shop loyalty go both wyas? Why should I continue to go to a shop that charges more if I don't get a break sometimes for my loyalty? Regardless of wheather that break comes in the form of free labour like I suggested or discounted merchandise I want to feel my loyal patronage is appreciated.

Dec. 2, 2005, 10:32 p.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

Thanks for the heads up - I'll contact CK to verify that the seller is in fact an authorized dealer before buying!

Dec. 2, 2005, 8:36 p.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

Okay. The only reason why I suggested a free build was because labour is apparently the only part of their servies that they can affect the price of; manufacturers set prices below which shops can't sell parts or they can't sell parts for less than what it costs to run the place.

The reason why I posted this question is because I didn't want to be rude. I would never walk into a shop, regardless of how much money I had spent there, and suggest that I deserve a discount. I work in retail and frequently have people do that exact thing - it's dirty and classless.

Reg:

"Should an employer cut my wages because someone else will work for less?"

What? Show how that is parallel to what I was suggesting.

I think it's great that you have the money to buy pay more than you have to for parts, but for me it would take several more months to save that kind of money.

Thad:

I find it funny that you would rather, your shop lose more money from me not buying all my parts from the shop, than get a free build. Mechanics get paid by the hour, not on commission, right? So why would you be more upset if the build you did was "free" or not?

Dec. 2, 2005, 4:41 p.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

I'm not so much worried about foul-ups associated with buying mailorder as the ethics of taking the cheapest option over an arguably better-intentioned bikeshop.

What made you deicide to go mailorder Jeff?

Dec. 2, 2005, 3:57 p.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

Your LBS' hands are pretty much tied by their distributor's price.

Absolutely. I was thinking a free/discounted build. Wheel builds apparently run about $35 per wheel so a discount of $70 isn't unreasonable on a wheelset worth $1300 IMHO.

Dec. 2, 2005, 3:48 p.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

I've always shopped a LBS, never online.

While its great to save money, I think in the long run you aren't going to remember that you spent an extra $100 here and and extra $200 there, but your local shops will.

I'm still trying to get over a guilt feeling of buying a non-Canadian bike

Yeah but is it reasonable to expect that the shop cut me a deal of some sort? These wheels are gonna be pretty damn expensive - if I buy all the parts from them should I expect a discount.

In the last year alone I've spent abot $2700 at the shop.

Dec. 2, 2005, 1:10 p.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

Remember that ebay stuff, technically has no warantee.QUOTE]

Apparently as an ebay store this guy honours warranties:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Chris-King-Classic-FRONT-Hub-28-hole-BLACK_W0QQitemZ7150996067QQcategoryZ36144QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

…not that it would be easy to sort out though if something did happen.

sanrensho:

My main concern in asking for a deal is offending the shop. What good is it to save a few bucks if I can't go there without there being awkwardness from now on? I go there regularly, but am by no means a "freind" of anyone at the shop. In my experience this shop is pretty firm about their prices.

Dec. 2, 2005, 11:56 a.m.
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At what point does mail order make sense?

Alright, so I'm piecing ogether parts for a new wheelset and am finding stuff way cheaper off ebay and mailorder sites. For example, I'm using CK hubs and a front hub will cost me $185 off ebay. That includes shipping, duty and tax. That same hub will cost me just over $350 from the LBS. That works out to a difference of $165!

Overall I stand to save about $250 by buying the rest of the parts for the build online.

I like to support bikeshops, but that kind of savings is a pretty big deal to me.

Should I buy the parts online and get the shop to do the lace-up, risking them being pissed and possibly cutting corners on the build OR suck it up, go with my LBS, and pay the difference?

Nov. 12, 2005, 4:39 p.m.
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Recoemmend best Island wheel builder

That is a nice looking wheelset! Snag it if you're in the market for some mid-range wheels!

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