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Yup agreed. I suspect companies will take advantage of these new buzzwords to further delineate their product offering. Humans are driven to simplify it’s in our nature our brains like to break down complex problems. I’d love one bike to rule them all too but I’d hate riding a downhill sled like this much of the time but those once in a qtr events to long gnarly winch and plummet sessions I’d be grateful to have it.

I hope the industry doesn’t move en masse in this direction. Thankfully I don’t think it will. What the industry does need to do is a better job of articulating the benefits and drawbacks of different geometry and bike configurations. I know it can be complex and there are a lot of variables to consider but it’s not impossible.

I never thought of myself as much of a weight weenie but by your numbers I’m absolutely solidly in the weenie camp ;)

Which PR hip pack did you get? Of course they are sold out of both the large and small version of their dumpling bag...

This ^.

How far back ones saddle is relative to the BB is how I determine how that bike will climb steep terrain. If it has a large setback (as a result of my desired cockpit fit) and a short rear I'm not gonna like it. 

I don't really account for reach its a resultant dimension after I account for all the other dimensions in particular my seated cockpit length and stack.

Totally agree. But I didn’t always. It took a season of commitment to off the back storage and practice but now having something on my back feels awful. Particularly in the summer.

Having the weight lower down actually improved the playful flick ability of my ride and seemingly stabilizes hopping and jumps.

Yes it I’ve done similar it really does seem low. Perhaps they measure rise from the bottom to the top edge of the bar vs center to center?

Thanks for the feedback!

Awesome, thanks! Totally helps.

@Andrew Major, on a new steed I'm thinking about trying these out finally. I've read reviews that state the the stated rise appeared to be much lower than anticipated. As in the 30mm rise was more like other companies 20 or even 15mm. I'm wondering if you could weigh in on that issue Andrew before I decide which rises to order? Judging by the photos it does seem that the 45mm looks more like my Renthal 20mm...

Cheers,

Michael

CoilAir, it can be as complicated or simple as you like! The leverage ratio refers to the amount of force applied for a given travel distance. Bikes can have higher, lower or variable leverage (and as such force applied) differences through out the entire range of available travel. In the case of the Process 153 it appears that you're leverage ratio changes very little from zero travel to full travel and falls from a higher leverage ratio to a lower ratio approximately 2.84 to 2.62. So at the beginning of your travel you have a bigger lever i.e. more force than you have at the end of your travel a smaller lever i.e. less force. The force chart is simply indicating how much force that lever is applying at a given travel.

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Make sure your wire and spade are appropriately sized for the amperage. Good luck. Coffee machine down = bad.

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I have a Nimble 9 which is similar in Geo to the Honzo or Taro. I can say that its is a great bike with ridiculously short chain stays and a similarly very short wheelbase. Its a fun bike to ride for sure but not nearly as fun as my Heckler.

That was tough to stomach as first (my first modern bike I built) but riding back to back even on trails that really don't warrant the Heckler I'd prefer to be on it. I have relegated the Nimble 9 to my bike packing bike and occasionally will take it out for a ride around town but for fun on the trails its the Heckler all the way.

Despite its geo I just can't manipulate the 29er as easily, level wheel lifts, front wheel lifts manuals etc. are all more difficult to do on it. I suspect that despite the progressive geo one still has that BB drop to contend with and that changes leverage ratios significantly. The heckler with its much longer wheelbase (1138 vs 1080ish) much longer chain stay (439 vs 415ish) feels more nimble and fun, it does have the smaller 27.5 wheels and a correspondingly shorter BB drop… My 2 cents.

I'm also heading in the light as possible direction. Went from Flows to lighter wheels (still trail oriented) and from the 2.4 Ardents to the 2.2 Ikons. The difference in weight/feel has been awesome (I run both tubeless.) I'm now convinced that my bike budget needs to redirect as much funds as possible to even lighter wheels! I like those Beavers but the EXO version is 760grams which likely means closer to 800 about the weight of the Ardents…

The start of our local haunt here (Hartland) is one big climb. The rest is short ups and downs its just too much climbing for the big tires for too little pay offs on short downs.