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How do they compare to the Shimano ME7?

Yeah I came across the Indy recently and they looked like the perfect knee pads for North Shore pedally rides - light but still with real knee protection. The charge seemed more like beefed up leg warmers to me (not saying that in a bad way, just serve a different purpose…much more on the XC side of things).

For someone who isnt a weight weenie - are these an obvious choice over the more expensive XT & XTR versions, or are there other things to consider as well (someone mentioned durability above)?

Posted by: XXX_er

an ex cab 4x4 PU is probaby the best becuz of 4x4 capability but mostly the longer WB

Pick-up truck snow performance is what I am most interested in. Is it critical to add extra weight in the back? I don't have much experience with PU trucks but as a kid I remember being scared shitless driving in my friend's dad's RWD pickup in the snow... the tail was flying around all over the place! Obviously 4WD would make a huge difference, but I'd imagine that adding weight in the back would be pretty critical too.

Posted by: Kevin26

But if all things are equal; great tires careful driving etc etc a 4wd vehicle is much better. I used to drive a Honda civic work vehicle and with brand new winter tires it could not make it up steep hills in a (really) bad storm where a 4wd vehicle could. 

In that test it only said the Camry was about the same in braking where the drive type doesn't matter.

I had good snow tires on my previous FWD sedan and currently have good snow tires on my AWD crossover/SUV and I feel a lot more confident driving in the snow in my AWD crossover... although it's also a much bigger and heavier vehicle too so not sure whether the AWD or the weight/size is the more significant factor.

Posted by: Brocklanders

Besides the Subarus I have had the best vehicle I have driven in the snow was the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution but they don't make it it anymore.

https://www.caranddriver.com/research/a32813969/best-cars-for-snow/

My current vehicle is actually on that list! Basically what I am getting at is that I ideally want a truck but if snow performance decreases considerably I probably wouldn't do it because that's quite important to me.

I'm not literally worried about being caught in a snowstorm... to be honest, the real question that I'm trying to answer is - I have an AWD unibody SUV (aka. crossover) and I like how it performs in the snow but want to get either a pick-up truck or something like a 4runner/Bronco in the future and curious how those would compare in the snow. I've done a fair bit of research on the internet and haven't found anything too concrete, but I have consistently read that AWD is often better in the snow. Like I've read a lot of things where people are saying "I traded in my Subaru for a pick-up truck and I miss how solid the Subaru felt while driving in the snow whereas the truck feels a bit sketchy". So if I am trading in my AWD crossover for a pick-up truck I'm curious how much different the performance in snow would be.

Yeah I agree that snow tires are definitely very important - always had dedicated snow tires and always will. Are you saying that the actual vehicle doesn't make a big difference as long as you have snow tires?

For those of you that have experience driving different types of vehicles in the snow, which would you recommend as the best between 1) AWD car/crossover (i.e. Subaru), 2) 4WD SUV (i.e. 4runner, Jeep), 3) 4wd pickup truck (assuming you have a bit of extra weight in the back)? Assuming that they all have proper snow tires, which type of vehicle would you prefer to be in if you were caught in a snow storm?

And a secondary question - is the difference between the best and the worst significant or are all 3 of those categories pretty close overall?

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Posted by: RiderDykman

Heading up Sunday if anyone wants to do a group ride.

Hate to be a wet blanket, but bc had over 200 new covid cases yesterday. Riding with random people you meet online may not be the best idea right now. Something to consider....

Our cases are definitely on the rise, personally I am back to my micro-bubble again. Stay safe.

Aren't outdoor sports in the very low risk category? Indoor stuff I can see being cautious but my understanding is that outdoor anything in general is fine as far as I know.

So you guys that buy high end hubs and keep them longer term - each time you break a rim I assume you buy a new rim, new spokes and then pay someone to rebuild the wheel? How much does that cost each time? Close to $300 after tax I would guess?

Not recalling a specific shop but I feel like I see them in most shops.

Do you guys wear pants when climbing or just for shuttling? I've always assumed that I would overheat super easily if I tried to wear pants on a pedally ride, even in the middle of winter.