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How do they compare to the Shimano ME7?

Yeah I came across the Indy recently and they looked like the perfect knee pads for North Shore pedally rides - light but still with real knee protection. The charge seemed more like beefed up leg warmers to me (not saying that in a bad way, just serve a different purpose…much more on the XC side of things).

For someone who isnt a weight weenie - are these an obvious choice over the more expensive XT & XTR versions, or are there other things to consider as well (someone mentioned durability above)?

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: Brother-Lu

35 minutes your at the woodlot:)

Shhh...   ...parking is already thick there.

I've only ridden the Woodlot once and the parking area that I was in only had enough spots for a handful of cars. Is that the only parking? Where would the overflow areas be?

Does the LSCR actually have legit mtb trails (aside from the few main ones like Richard Juryn and Circuit 8)? I sometimes go up there to walk around rice lake or road bike to the damn, etc. and I always see people with mountain bikes in the parking lot but was always confused as to where they were going.

Posted by: SixZeroSixOne

Google copyright is showing 2021 so doesn't help...

Indian River Crescent

https://maps.app.goo.gl/enJgTY2CB73v7s1s5

The street view you linked is actually from 2011 so you're right. On the top left corner if you click "street view" you can actually see the streetview at 4 different points in time.

I guess the sign up there sort of makes sense because there's not really much reason for non-residents to pass that point (ignoring the Baden Powell trail). 

Is it not a public road regardless though? I don't know how those laws work. Isn't the Mount Seymour road under the responsibility of the ski hill and not a fully public road? Perhaps the same concept applies to IRR...

Posted by: LoamtoHome

I believe it's still there so people can't access Quarry Rock from above.  A quick email to DNV would confirm.

I guess that's the one semi logical reason... but even the Quarry Rock closure, yeah it's busy trail for hiking trails, but in the grand scheme of things I'd say that's very low on the covid risk heirarchy. What other hiking trails/outdoor areas are still closed because of Covid? They closed down a lot of that stuff at the beginning of Coivd but then soon realized it made no sense, and 99% of outdoor stuff was reopened but Quarry Rock was like the one exception for some reason. As someone who lives downtown, every single day I am in areas/situations with far more people than you'd ever encounter on Quarry Rock. Walking down the seawall for example, or any sidewalk... and I'm be pretty confident in guessing that there have been next to no seawall related covid transmission over the past year with thousands of people on it every single day. IMO the Quarry Rock/IRR/Deep Cove closures just seem very NIMBY to me.

Posted by: MaxRockatansky

Posted by: Bull_Dozer

The Indian River road closure is complete BS...

This. I can only presume someone that lives out at woodlands is on council....

I live on the suburbia end of IR rd and I will tell you what is more dangerous than a few people hiking / biking in the forest; It's the speed at which entitled woodlands residents drive through our neighbourhood....

I'm curious if there are any other covid related road closures at all in the entire province. Closing something like a restaurant, movie theatre, (non-essential) store, etc. you can understand as that puts people very close to each other in an indoor space, thus increasing the risk of covid transmission. How do you then apply that same concept to a road, and more specifically, a random road through a forest in a sparsely populated area. I'd love to hear someone from (whoever is responsible for it) to try to justify it.

Posted by: switch

Indian River is closed to non-local traffic yet there are a lot of vehicles with bikes on the rack driving it.  And there are a lot of MTBers riding back on it.

The Indian River road closure is complete BS...

Posted by: MaxRockatansky

Even if they were aiming for John Deere and missed the turn they would have been in over their heads, but severed  was straight up irresponsible....

Is John Deere that much easier than the other Seymour trails (i.e. Severed)? IMO, although it is less technical/steep it makes up for it by being much faster and still quite rough (trail seems pretty eroded vs. how it was when it initially opened).

Posted by: earleb

https://www.whistler.ca/media/news/essential-travel-only-sea-sky-communities-until-may-25

Convenient for them to say this after the mountain is closed and they can't earn revenue from outsiders. I wonder what portion of people skiing in Whistler didn't live there? I'm guessing it's a pretty darn high #. They weren't issuing stuff like that in February...

Posted by: Sanchez321

I live in East Van and have made the decision to avoid hitting the shore for the time being, I personally need to protect my family from exposure and myself, being in my mid 40's. I don't like it, but its what I need to do from a selfish perspective and it happens to coincide with doing a solid for the greater community of people that live and work in Greater Vancouver. To me the only clear path to putting COVID in the rear view mirror is doing my part and reducing my interaction with others where ever and whenever possible (and getting vaccinated).

I don't know about you guys, but I mostly ride solo (especially during covid19) and during my average ride I rarely come within 6 feet of anyone the entire time (from leaving my house to returning back home). Like I pack my gear and bike up in my vehicle, drive to the trailhead, put my gear on outside my vehicle, and then ride the trails solo. I might either pass or get passed by a few people the entire ride (i.e. coming within 6 feet of each other) but that's literally just like a 1 second thing... In other words, me going for a mountain bike ride has got to be one of the lowest risk things I can think of doing. Much lower risk than even walking down the sidewalk near my place.

If you're going on a big group ride, shuttling up in the same car, and all going out for food together after then that's a totally different story. But if you are just going for a solo ride to get a bit of exercise, that's basically a non-issue in terms of covid. Even the Fromme parking lot for example... it's not like you are going to makeout with the guy parked next to you.

Point being - if you want to go for a ride, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do it in a very safe manner where the covid risk is basically non-existent.

Has there been a single case of a solo cyclist getting covid from cycling...? I wouldn't imagine so.

Posted by: Couch_Surfer

https://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/local-news/north-shore-park-access-limited-in-covid-crackdown-3120983

Article says "Apr 14, 2020" - is that a typo?