CoilAir profile

What is going on with that lower shock mount? Just, nothing covering the bearings...? Fully exposed?

You mean the month long full lockdown in NZ? I agree. Everyone needs to stay the fuck home.

“linearly-progressive”

lol

New standard? Sounds tasty.

Just picture it with red lowers.

Who's sweet custom splatter paint-job Kona Operator is that? Need to see more of that bike please!!

TIL all bikes I can ride on a trail are "fully functional MTBs".

I highly recommend turning on the auto closed captions. If only for Weed Simmons and Two Almonds Better Ham.

"a comparitive bargain" - "$6,200USD"

...Okay...

Posted by: three-sheets

well in my HUMBLE opinion, we take somewhat complicated machines into the forest and push them and ourselves to their limits…it would be fool hardy to not bring repair kits for the bike and rider with us.

Its just me perhaps but ive seen the needle and the damage done so i ride prepared for the worst possible scenario….not being able to remove a valve stem is pretty ….uh….amateur.

Short of an aed or a frame…anyone i ride with can feel assured that we will get home in one piece..I pack like a guide because hey, im my own guide. Not being able to fix a flat 40 km from the truck isnt an option in my world

But, but, aesthetics bro! If it doesn't fit in a DaKine Camo Hot Laps 1.5L fanny pack, I don't need it!

...Just in case, I'm being totally sarcastic BTW...

Alas, it is not
All that was happy in life
Is sad and empty

:lol:

:lol:

Seriously though, it can't be hard to machine something like this. Get NSB on the case! They'll make dozens of dollars in profit!

So am I the only one who carries a proper tool kit when riding?

-park folding tool
-small crescent wrench
-valve stem tool
-leatherman
-pump
- 3 tubes
-chain tool
-spoke wrench
- a few misc bolts the same size as ones on my bike

….maybe now i know why im always the trailside mechanic for others……it must weigh all of 2 lbs.

That doesn't sound like it would fit in an endurbro fanny pack.

It's one of the two (?) lines on this rock face. I can never remember if Big Stupid or Semi Retarded is on the right.

Semi retarded is to the right.

Margin is gross profit divided by MSRP.

Example: $100 MSRP item with $75 wholesale cost = $25 gross profit = 25% margin

Markup is gross profit divided by wholesale cost

Example: $100 MSRP item with $75 wholesale cost = $25 gross profit = 33.3% markup

So if the shop is making 35% margin on the SC @ $13,950 it's $13,950 - ($13,950*.35) = $9,067.50.

I have no idea what constitutes a "premium" brand. Marketing I guess. YT has a world cup DH team and some incredible freeriders, I would consider them premium. SC also has a world cup team and a bunch of rad enduro riders. I would also consider them premium.

I've never worked in a shop that sold Giant, so I can't speak to their margins. I'm also taking a good deal of liberties assuming that YT and SC are making roughly the same as shop margins. Maybe they make more, maybe they make less.

One thing for sure is, the more people that have to make money off something (ie: distributors and/or bike shops), the more expensive the product is going to be.

The bikes themselves may be directly comparable, but the business models are definitely not. People think they're comparing apples to apples (the bikes), but they are actually comparing apples to oranges (the price, which is a result of differing business models).

What is it that I'm missing here.

What's to miss? YT is consumer direct and SC is a premium brand sold by retail bicycle shops.

While I agree the SC is expensive, let's take a quick look:

Retail shops operate on ~35% margins on bikes, so if $13,950 is MSRP @ full margin it cost the shop $9,067.50 to buy. And SC has to make money on it too, so let's assume they make ~35% margin. That means it cost SC about $5,893.88 to get that bike to their warehouse to sell to shops.

Consumer direct brands cut out shops and distributors. They can make their full margins and sell for way, way, way less.

Let's assume YT make ~35% margin as well. That $7,599 bike cost them $4,939.35 to get to their warehouse to sell directly to you.

Comparing those two price points there's a ~$950 difference between the YT and the SC. Definitely conceivable to have a $950 difference considering a few of the spec differences. It's adding in that second 35% margin that puts the SC into the stratosphere.

Where'd ya get it? Don't see it online

I work in the industry and got it from the Stan's rep directly. I would think it would be on their website?? Is it not??

so this clamps onto the stem or the little nut ?

The little nut/lockring. Slip the circular part over the lockring, pinch the other end and turn as a wrench. Works like a charm.

Also can be used to pinch the flattened tooled parts on a valve with removable core.

Also works okay as a makeshift pair of tweezers, but not the best for that.

I use the Stan's Tight Valve Lockring Removal Wrench. :lol: