ALL Blackcomb trails have been closed as of today until further notice by WB due to lift construction activities, FYI.
Posted by: nortonwhis
Posted by: ReductiMat
Posted by: Ddean
I also love AP but in August when it’s 6inches Deep in dust, not so much. It’s been amazing lately!
I Laughed out loud when you blew past the guys lining up for ALine at full blast! Looked like a wicked run to me.
I hear you. AP is near the last on the list of trails to ride in deep summer... that moon dust in those berms turns me into a timid mouse.
All this talk of AP has me thinking of a very different ski line, was wondering how the fuck you guys get after that in the summer...
Sproatt and Rainbow alpine trails have been closed due to aggressive grizzly bear activity for the rest of the season...Closures include everything above the Flank on Rainbow (Skywalk network, Rainbow's End, Screaming Cat), Rainbow Lake trail, and Into the Mystic, With a Twist, On the Rocks, Happy Hour, Lord of the Squirrels.
I rode UBBB yesterday, I love it. it's steep and rowdy, but easy to ride in relative control. The alpine marathon guys actually brushed out the lower clearcut part a few weeks ago and it's much improved, although the stunts in there still suck.
Posted by: Kevin26
Posted by: mike-henry
Awesome suggestions guys. I have to drop the kids off at Base II. On Trail Forks it looks like I can park there and ride the Blackcomb Access Road to Yummy Numby - is that right? Then down Foreplay, a rip around Lost Lake trails, and back up to Base II. Is that gonna work?
Yeah that or check out dark crystal
or both! you can also loop right through golden door above yummy numby, hang a left and then add the upper comfortably numb loop before descending back down Foreplay if you have some extra time. Pretty tech XC, but not ridden as much these days so pretty xc-loamy with tech rocky bits here and there
Posted by: hypa
I'm with you Flip, but the issue with Whistler is that it truly is a global destination full of part time visitors. I've had so many conversations with folks up there who are in town for a week, and want to spend time exploring trails outside of the park. I could imagine spending thousands on a trip overseas to visit Whistler, and do you homework on trailforks only to find it's pissing rain, or the trail you've read about is degraded due to dryness, etc. For us it's not a big deal. I can let it sit for a week until things dry out, or even grab a shovel and do my part. But for lots of people, this is the one chance they get to ride our special geography.
I see it all the time in the Alta Lake pump track. Folks doing laps after a rain storm, or something like that. As much as I want to blame them for the damage they're doing, I just don't bother. Like Nickel said, build trails people like, and they will come.
I get what you're saying, but I don't think that's necessarily acceptable. That exact scenario played out in Revy a couple seasons back and it resulted in Frisby Ridge getting shut down for an entire season and requiring a wholesale rebuild. We're doing better at highlighting trails on trailforks that should be given a miss in wet weather, and which ones are suitable. We just need to try and do better as a whole in this regard and really try harder to not love stuff to death, and by that I mean the POWFEVER mentality of having to ride it as much as possible before everyone else that hastens those impacts to the extreme.
It's a lot different sport than it was 10 years ago, and a lot of new people in the sport don't understand some of those nuances, and I think we need to try harder to pass that education on, and hold each other to higher standards.
na I'm not saying people shouldn't ride a trail, but I do think we need to hold each other to a much higher standard about how we 'consume' not for profit natural surface trails, and I believe we should show at least a moderate amount of self restraint and not abuse them when they're new or at times when they're saturated. I know people in the s2s love them their new trails, and they love them to absolute death and then point fingers at everyone else for that impact. It doesn't have to be the reality.
Hey, I'm not an idiot, I'm just optimistic at times that maybe the mtb community can be better than it currently is....however naively misplaced that optimism may be. Personally since watching the microcrystalling of many fresh trails, I've committed to not over riding those types of trails, and not riding them at all in wet weather. I don't treat valley 'loamer' trails like the bike park, because, they aren't and someone usually not getting paid and using up a lot of their free time has to maintain them, it would be good if more people remembered and respected that.
it's almost like when people can't control themselves with a new trail, and lap it multiple times a day/week by hundreds of people before it's even done, it never really recovers...and when that was late fall/early spring in the wet, well, you've seen the results.
Posted by: dmc
So I checked out Dark Crystal this morning for the first time since it became "official".
Some nice work has been done to make certain sections more sustainable. It's not the dreamy loamer I remembered it to be from several years ago, but it's nice to be able to do the last part of the climb without worrying about hostile encounters with the bear people.
The lower "flow" sections seem a lot chunkier now — like, Microclimate post-EWS chunky. And though it's now public knowledge, I wonder if the relentless 700 metre climb is intimidating enough to keep traffic relatively low so that the trail doesn't devolve into a blown out mess.
it's almost like it had 5 years of riding in a season.....
Posted by: grambo
I didn't realize Stonebridge Pl/Rd are private roads? Parked up there a couple times in prior years but haven't this year. I read that the developer has been pretty cool and proactive about MTB so will respect that and park elsewhere from now on.
no, they are public, and you technically can...we'd just prefer if people didn't. The Stonebridge developer has actually been really cool, and is a huge supporter for our trail development stuff in that area, and has contributed to many of our projects with cash and staff/labour. We're working with the RMOW on developing a parking/staging area at the bottom of Lower Sproatt so we'll have a proper start of the Mystic climb with a similar style all the way to the alpine, and connected blue trails descending right back to there as well. Sirloin/Darwin's was never really built for descending riders, so that's one thing we didn't really anticipate happening. But yeah, we should've known people want to park as high as possible....