It seems like the Ripmo doesn't fit particularly big. Is that a fair assessment? I.e. if an XL HD4 fits small the XL Ripmo won't be much better?
Any chance you could ask Santa Cruz why no XXL in either bike (add Nomad to the list) when Santa Cruz sizing dictates a need for an XXL (see Hightower LT and V10 for proof)?
Non parametric model running on 1996 data and a survey with a single collection modality?
This is more a marketing paper than anything else IMHO.
"...I wouldn't fear tossing into the weeds. Of course, I have no real data to substantiate this opinion"
I see many weeds in the photos, thus providing ample opportunity to throw said bike into the weeds and to then gauge resulting fear levels. Not generating this data, in spite of the opportunity given, is an opportunity missed indeed.
Geared up I'm 230lbs on the bike and this new gen of "stiff" bikes are about right for me. It isn't that long ago that road riding meant watching the BB sway back and forth and trail riding meant listening to the pivots creak.
The addition of the XXL puts YT on the map for me and is one more piece of evidence that bike manufacturers are recognizing there are +6'2" riders out there.
Forgive me if someone already said this, but I don't think any of these are mistakes. Rather, the list is just a timeline of being a mountain biker in the early 90s to today.
What people can forget is that we weren't so much developing mountain riding culture as we were transitioning from/overcoming a century or road bike culture.
I think that where we are with mountain biking after only 20 years of collective learning is pretty good compared to other riding tribes (road, city, bmx, etc.).
A 4L milk carton and zip ties can do wonders in the rain.
You forgot to mention the Giant Reign. The Reign is decently long and cheap.
There are some lines on South Mountain in PHX that are very Shore'esque - janky with no room for error and a broken collarbone if you get it wrong.
That loose sand/gravel stuff in PHX is just as greasy as a wet root as far as I'm concerned.
If only the Nicolai GeoMetron wasn't priced like a Bently.
Thanks Dave. You've nicely summarized the disjointed and incoherent decision making I follow with every bike purchase. Purchases that always plop me on an XT bike with solid components, aluminum wheels, and a frame that doesn't cost more than a car.
It was the rebuild and the spacer that sounds like it did it.
I was extremely close to buying a HTLT, largely based on the XXL size offering. However, I couldn't get over the feeling that it was a slapped together design from Santa Cruz. Sort of a "we need a bigger travel big wheel so what have we got we can put together?".
Being SC I knew it'd be a good bike, but I also feel the next bike they build will be better. Hightower Vs. Tallboy. Bronson Vs. Blur LT. See where I'm going with this?
If SC can steepen up that ST, stretch the cockpit a wee bit, and add 10mm of travel I'll be first in line with my cash in hand.