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Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were here for the argument. What threw me was when you chose to demonstrate the finer nuances of gravel by describing in detail how on a perfectly normal sounding gravel ride you would in fact choose to use a perfectly normal sounding gravel bike. Was it the 2.1s?

I've no idea why my comment upsets you so much but I do sincerely hope your day gets better.

It appears you are misunderstanding me or I am crap at explaining. I think that gravel is an off road-road discipline, it is not mountain biking lite. Its a way to ride road without traffic, better scenery and a little bit of bumpy windy spice if you fancy that sort of thing, not that it's something that should be done on a standard road bike.

It seems to me like gravel is viewed in two lights, it's either an alternative to mtb or riding road bikes off road. I'm firmly in the road bikes off road camp from where these bars make little sense. It's not super technical and you lose speed getting un-aero, I'm not riding for comfort or relaxing. For the mtb alternative crowd why bother with these? Just go flat bar and stop trying to make something unsuitable work for you.

Oh god, I was just about to post some dumb sarcastic question about Ergons on drop bars as that's the only time I get discomfort and you go and post this.

Something I recently discovered when Specialized suspension calculator started working for my bike and suggesting I run 255psi (30 more than I had!) in my DPX2 is that there are negative volume spacers in there. I had to pull one out to get back to the correct sag point with that much pressure but now it bottoms out far less often while still being supple at the top.

Also, having watched that can we get rid of the teeter totter and put a custard pond on Ladies? That would secure my vote next AGM.

Good to know. Guess I'm off to Costco.

I believe it's the corn flour in there. With custards known explosive nature maybe try not to set fire to your knee pads just in case, the opposite of protection.

Custard is a non newtonian fluid. I've often hoped to find that my D30 products are filled with custard. In a somewhat related theme if I happened upon a swimming pool filled with custard (insdutrial accident at Kits beach for example) would I be able to walk across it?

For an alternate use WD-40 is the best solvent I have found for getting sticker/decal residue off your frame and other bits.

Neds is nowhere near as bad as CBC was and I'll be sad to see it fixed up as it's damn well perfect (well maybe some more drainage wouldn't go amiss). I would hope though that they give Dirty Diapers some love if Neds gets re-done, seems like it's still an official trail but the most neglected by far.

If you've ridden Ned's any time in the last six months there was a bridge replacement that definitely looks put in by parks and not trail builders. A big, wide, solid steel bridge. Looks almost exactly like the type of bridge they put on the hiking trails. Hmmm. I also have my suspicions there's plans for a reroute taking bikes back east away from neds before you cross the river.

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Why is a 2 foot wide path in the woods such a bad thing?

There’s a real answer for that.

I'm completely ignorant of why that is, can you shed some light on that?

Considering our forest is all urban the answer has to be an environmental proxy argument for money. Establishing a right of way could be a legal irrritation come construction or clear felling time.

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Posted by: taprider

This is what I saw in the 2018 plan

"Dale’s Trail Improvements:
Consider upgrading lower sections to flow better with
section 1 of Dale’s to provide a cohesive user experience
from top to bottom."

I think upgrading Section 1 to flow better with lower sections of Dales to provide a cohesive user experience from top to bottom would be a lot easier and more cost effective.

Riders can get a more consistent experience by exiting Upper Dale's to Dale's connector and then head anywhere else in the network, but it wasn't really a good option in 2018 when Metro published their plan.

Since then, Dale's "Connector Connector" was properly built and Dale's Connector rerouted to make it a friendlier climb for those who wanted to ride Upper Dale's but not continue down the rest of Dale's. Metro didn't permit the Connector Connector work until NSMBA had an agreement with RST for the CMHC lands because Metro felt they couldn't have a trail of theirs connect to a trail (Dale's Connector) managed by another land manager.

I'm a little lost here. Dales connector as I know it is the trail from just above power lines that lets you avoid Upper Dales (I joke but honestly could not figure out why it got worked on until I realised people might want to ride it in the other direction) yes? But what are you calling "connector connector"?

Posted by: taprider

This is what I saw in the 2018 plan

"Dale’s Trail Improvements:
Consider upgrading lower sections to flow better with
section 1 of Dale’s to provide a cohesive user experience
from top to bottom."

I think upgrading Section 1 to flow better with lower sections of Dales to provide a cohesive user experience from top to bottom would be a lot easier and more cost effective.

Posted by: LoamtoHome

Upper Dales is how not to build or maintain a trail.... the flat rocky corners are downright treacherous at speed. They should have fixed up the upper part and the tax payers would have been way better off. Epic fail on Metro and Joyride.

I'm glad it's not just me. I could never get to grips with that trail, the berms don't seem to do what berms are supposed to do so I find myself just sitting down and not bothering until Dales proper starts. Maybe a bit of bike-parkesque trail isn't a bad idea for diversity but that one just doesn't work on any level IMO.

Climbing up top would be nice. It would tempt me to ride a new CBC now and again even if it wasn't to my liking. It does seem a bit of an omission to not connect mushroom to the road though, somehow I can't quite clean that incline climbing route. Surely I remember we were promised upper Dales was as far as the "flow" was going down that side or am I dreaming?

CBC Update from Metro Vancouver

As part of Phase 1 of their 2018 Trails Strategic Plan, Metro Vancouver will be revitalizing the CBC trail on Seymour "with the assistance of LEES+Associates and IMBA (International Mountain Biking Association) Canada". Work will be starting this summer and the NSMBA will be assisting with certain projects.

I'm not sure whether to be happy or sad about this. On the one hand I never ride CBC as it's a little too janky even for my taste (C-buster & Neds forever! Don't you touch them!) but on the other hand isn't IMBAs mandate to flatten pretty much everything?

So I checked out the lot, pretty sure you'd be fine to park there but it's only open at times Old Buck wouldn't be busy. Mon-Fri 8-4

Looking at google maps there appears to be around 15 spaces along the south side road without even parking near any of the buildings which all have their own dedicated parking. It must be prohibited surely or someone would have noticed before now.