What's BBY mountian like?
nasty? you're kidding me, right??? transcanada/joes is pretty much one of the nicest climbs around. i can make it up in 25min (and i'm no xc-er) and link up the trails to make up a 20min downhill. add in some of the lower trails before the climb to make it even more fun and a little longer.
Fromme to me is easier, steady grade good pace and away you go . I'm not a xc'er either but do ride some xc, and yeah 25 min to half hour is about right but Joe's section just before it meets cardiac hill , I have a hard time keeping the front wheel on the ground going up that section.