Re: What is wrong with users of mountain bicycles? And why do they get so emotional on the announcement of a new bottom bracket?
Posted by: blackfly
Posted by: craw
Posted by: blackfly
Posted by: craw
We are fully in a golden age of bikes. Amazing, varied, great pedalling, light, reasonably durable, and a huge range of options? Yes. Affordable, no.
Golden age is past. I remember when any BB could work in any bike, you only worried about 26" wheels, whether it was high pivot or 4 bar link and it ran a front derailleur so you could use pretty much any rear cog and rear derailleur. Most high end frames were hand welded in Canada or the US, and copious amounts of CNC machining was the norm. But a bike for life doesn't make the industry much money, does it.....
I am building a new bike now with all new parts, and it seems the more compartmentalized you can make it, the better. I can't understand the thinking behind fat bikes, although I like them, in the fact that: where are you going to find tires, parts, hubs and all of the ancillary specific parts in 5 years? 10? Being a fan of Hope, they have a fully Hope bike that uses its own hub standard and Hope fitting. Nice to begin with but not very sensible long term. I remember a time when the long term part was a given, if that sounds a bit naive.
Even if a bike could last forever would you want to ride it forever? Technology, attitudes, skills and trails evolve. There are plenty of bikes from the 90s still around but likely you're not riding one every day for one of these reasons.
I get a new bike every 2-3 seasons. That's about as long as it takes me to wear it out, and that's about as long as it takes each batch of new ideas to solidify. My current bike is by a wide margin the best bike I've ever had. Better than any XC or DH or freeride bike I've ever had. Not only is it better in all of those respective categories but it's lighter and more reliable too.
I don't really get fat bikes either but then again I don't live in Minnesota or Michigan, where they have a huge scene built around fat bikes. For some people in some places they are clearly awesome.
Maybe you weren't working in shops in the early 90s when shops stocked 68/78 shell BBs in a dozen axle widths and before that they were dealing with a mix of old road standards. Or when 6 speed freewheels switched to 7 speed cassettes then 8,9,10 and beyond. And then Gripshift then SRAM showed up. We have never had drivetrain interchangeability.
It is funny you would challenge the statement with "weren't working around shops etc...". I was around. At least then you could cook something up to make it work, and usually just fine. Now, adapt or nothing works. Convenient marketing. Moreover, when everyone had 26" wheels, it was easy and a given that the tire would fit, and to find tubes (I prefer them for the longevity). My current bike has Suntour XC Pro 8 speed shifters on them: why? They work and don't break, and how old is that? (I have a spare set just in case).
There was a time when you could mix something old with something new and it worked, worked fine and perhaps better than what is out there, but now it is all about new, and it is not so much for the "better" factor but to get you to buy new.
FWIW: just think how many good older frames are now obsolete if 27.5 or 29 is the norm. Consider a Chris Bailey handbuilt, fillet brazed thunderbolt but alas, no 26 inch wheels. Progress?
You can still get 26 inch carbon rims from China and Lightbike. They have four 26 inch offerings.
https://www.lightbicycle.com/carbon-mountain-bike/carbon-mountain-bike-rim/26er.
Very light and half the price of Stan no Tubes carbon rims.