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May 29, 2011, 1:26 a.m.
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NAHEENO TRAIL

I'm a bit late to this discussion but I'd like to make a case. Naming things is good. All of the unnamed features we all love no doubt have some kind of reference in our own minds or informal names we use with our buddies. But when we want to talk publicly (here for example) we are left trying to describe what and where we are talking about. Over time names tend to accrue until you get really cool embodiments of whole trails like in Italy where practically every bend has some kind of public reference or name (often from a built up history) and all the locals share a rich ability to talk about it all. I 'enjoyed' reading and recognizing whitehonky's trail descriptions at the start of this thread . . . which were very good . . . but most of us struggle to get across what or where we are talking about.

Here's an example. I would like to see what everyone thinks about the very large fallen tree midway on Mel's where the trail goes beneath. Over the winter it has cracked on the bottom side and the whole thing has settled a few inches. Has anyone else been bumping their head more often? After hitting mine once I stopped (well it sort of stopped me) and took a look at it. It seemed pretty stable but the engineer in me thought about whether it might move down over the trail in a more threatening way sometime soon. A week later there was a crew cutting trees along University Drive, so I stopped and asked them if they knew who to talk to at City Hall if it ever became a hazard. I could not get across to them where or what I was talking about. They knew I was talking about Mel's, and though they said they knew the trails pretty well (one rode), they kept asking if I was talking about Nicole's Pole. And so, back to my point: I replied that Nicole's Pole was on, uhh, Nicole's. "Of course," they said, and then started talking in fair detail about Nicole's Pole and its history and recent partial demise. So, two 'poles,' both noteworthy points on their respective trails, but recognition only for the named one. I want a name for the other. Maybe Head Smashed In Mud Dip, I don't know.

Now I do like the idea of at least a few names for trail features. Meet me in 1/2 hour at Head Smashed In. But lets start at the bigger level. The name "Mel's" has referred to the whole length of the Naheeno section and Mel's proper. Whenever I've used it to refer to the Naheeno section people often don't know it exists or are confused about what they think is the start (at University Drive) of Mel's and what I am talking about as the start. Lets go back to the beginning and call the upper portion the Naheeno Trail. Then we have two reference points instead of just one. We also then have names for two distinct sections of trail. Finally we have a trail called Naheeno which refers to its original name plus marks the park (makes sense with the ghostly playground) that once existed there.

Remember, naming is a democratic function: the names we use become the names official.

May 29, 2011, 12:29 a.m.
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lets push it a bit

Who else thinks that the park could/should be expanded within its current boundary? There is so much space up top and on the flats down below for tons of challenging lines [HTML_REMOVED] features across all ability levels. How about some natural wood, rock and dirt intensity like an outdoor version of some of what has been built at the Ray's Indoor parks? It would be interesting to hear what Burnaby and Hoots would have to say.

Comments?

May 28, 2011, 2:24 p.m.
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Cypress Snow Line - Jan 23

Thanks, too bad but not surprising.
A tangential thought: Xerox PARC developed the 1st practical mouse (costing several thousand dollars a copy). However, they saw no possible application outside of their own labs. Steve Jobs took the idea over with Xerox PARC's blessing. They thought Jobs had nowhere to go with it so it was not a threat to them. Apple would just waste money on it until they smartened up. Well we know what happened: Jobs made it simpler, more sophisticated and available for $100.00 a copy (now 20.00). Apple conquered the world and Xerox was nothing but baffled.
OK . . . Cypress. Boyne Resorts is Xerox PARC. Apple/Jobs is anyone who could take Cypress and make it into an amazing, wide reaching, intense bike fun park. Who would have thought WBP would develop into what it is today, with riders from the whole globe converging on it. The skill of Steve Jobs was to see the way to get it done.
nough.

May 26, 2011, 1:43 a.m.
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Cypress Snow Line - Jan 23

What happened to the Cypress Bike Park? Its memory has been wiped off their website.

Nov. 22, 2006, 9:56 p.m.
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state of trail building on the shore?

I agree with those saying not to cut more but to make better the existing network. Its always great to ride new trails but, with no disrespect to the efforts of those already maintaining the Shore, there is always more work to do and many trails to be given long overdo care, or even better to be rebuilt into even better versions of what they are now.

By the way, how does one find/contact a specific trail's current caretaker?

Oct. 13, 2006, 2:10 a.m.
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Fat old men on nice bikes

point taken synchro, I'll lighten up . . . which was the only point I should have made.

Oct. 11, 2006, 2:19 a.m.
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shut this negative thread down.

I like the tone this thread is taking lately . . . and hopefully it will close down soon.

Its all about individual experience and the rush needed to create peaks within one's life. 6 years old, 25, 40, or 75 . . . ride it, roll it, drop it, jump it; do it on the best bike you can grab, and if you can't do it on a bike (so sad) do it some other way. Stop whinning about what you see others doing and having and look to how you can get your own mind into explosive experiences.

enough?

Oct. 8, 2006, 3:40 p.m.
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as I said, love both, but my vote is for boarding

Environment Canada says there is no El Nino or Nina events this year . . . hopefully snow will come close to last year's levels.

Oct. 7, 2006, 6:21 a.m.
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all good by me!

skied for 20+ years . . . nothing better save for the toll on the knees
now boarding for 5 years . . . nothing better save for the fact you have to go like mad to get any exercise . . . but the fluid thrills and flow are as good as riding endless singletrack and air is air, need I say more.

Both are different but equally useful means to throw your body into all that gravity and terrain have to offer.

Love to ride the winter, but am also itching for snow now!

Oct. 7, 2006, 6 a.m.
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What is your home shop?

Cap's Sapperton for service on the endless warranteed breakage . . . Marie is invaluable.

Otherwise: On Top, Steed, Reckless, Cove and both Dizzy shops. I especially like the feel, experience and stock at On Top.
Also like Different Bikes and even the mess called Edmonds Cycle: some good buys at times.

Not too fond of Snowcovers of John Henry for that matter . . . but the need to look takes me everywhere and all too often.

Recently I accidently discovered the at the back/bottom of the new commercial centre at Univercity/SFU . . . small but not badly supplied . . . doubt it will survive the winter though.

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