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July 31, 2020, 9:39 a.m.
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Re: New Angleset for IS

Posted by: Kenny

Was too good to be true. 

The upper cup doesn't fit in my head tube. Several mm too large in diameter. 

I guess it might fit in the aluminum version of the frame. Kinda makes me wonder if it fits any carbon santa Cruz frames...

Can you elaborate? It doesn't seem like an IS41 upper cup can be off by several mm. 

Looking at 9.8 schematics and it seems like it should be a simple drop in fit. Do the SC carbon head tubes taper internally such that the threaded portion of the upper cup doesn't just drop in? IS41 should be IS41...

July 28, 2020, 8:50 a.m.
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Re: NSMB 2020 - Full Suspension Bike Thread

Posted by: heathen

I also figured a reach of 440 or 450 would be about the limit.

I was worried the 30mm jump in reach might be too much. I have two rides on it and it feels great. 

So awesome, if I remember you had the trance 29 as well right?

Geometry wise, I was very much like you preferring a 430-445 reach in my traditional mediums. I also had a medium Range 29 that felt too cramped, so I bumped up to a large which felt great. I was also worried about a 475 reach which sounds crazy long to me, but so far has not felt out of place at all. I'm probably just not a good enough rider to notice the nuance of an increase in 25mm reach

Like yourself I also worried that the sled-like length of the Sentinel and the noticeably harder/slacker steering on the flats would make it cumbersome on trail, but in reality it feels quite reasonable -- just a lot more stable all around as well.

July 25, 2020, 11:23 p.m.
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Re: New Angleset for IS

Posted by: Kenny

Nope, they change the actual axis.

Good to know. So different steertube axis. External lower cup which would slacken both HA and SA and shorten reach. External upper cup which could also further shorten reach. I'm not smart enough to bracket these changes all at once, but it seems like a lot to me. 

Really curious how the net effect of this works out, please report back. I don't have an vested interest in this right now, but who knows for the future

July 25, 2020, 9:09 a.m.
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Re: New Angleset for IS

Looked at this only briefly, but these look like they change the head angle based on the height of the lower headset cup? As opposed to changing the axis of the fork steertube within the head tube of the frame to achieve the angle change.

More options are better than less for sure, but I'm not sure this product does it for me without affecting too many other variables

July 14, 2020, 7:25 p.m.
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Re: How hard is it to swap RS Super Deluxe travel spacers???

Is the stock shock native 205mm x 65mm stroke? So you need a 2.5mm spacer instead of maybe a 7.5mm spacer?

I know 205x60 is a pretty common native size, but not sure about 205x65 though. 

With most shocks 'proper' spacer removal or replacement is fairly involved. But if you are just removing a spacer you can cautiously cut it off in most cases taking care not to scratch the inner shaft.

July 11, 2020, 8:45 p.m.
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Re: NSMB - 2020 - Hardtail Thread

Posted by: Vikb

I should have put a bunch more clear tape on it when I built it up, but for some reason I didn't. I can't recall why. 

In my experience it's usually because a good clear tape job takes a really long time to get done properly between sizing up, cutting, applying bubble free, and stretching it to conform to any curvy bits.

Then I get too impatient to get it done properly and just start bolting parts on to see what it would look like, then a few other parts to see how it would feel while sitting on it, and before you know the thing is built up and ready to party.

July 11, 2020, 8:28 p.m.
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Re: NSMB 2020 - Full Suspension Bike Thread

Well I no longer own the Trance 29 posted several pages back. I've moved onto this plastic Sentinel, which will likely be overkill for most of my local riding but enough for some Whistmas shreddy shred. I'm running it mullet with a 27.5x2.8 in the back because slacker HA is better. Also had to pull put on my 165mm cranks because this bb is looooow once sagged down

The Senti pedals nowhere near as efficient as the Trance even with the shock in firm, but I'm also expecting the bike to absolutely rip up the park. And I dont think there's much of a weight difference compared to my build on the Trance either.

On the geo note, I sized up to a large because I had tried a friend's medium Patrol and found it cramped. The reach is way longer than medium Trance, ETT 10mm longer which I negated with a 10mm shorter stem. Cockpit position feels very good for me and virtually identical to the Trance.

July 10, 2020, 11:57 p.m.
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Re: NSMB 2020 - Full Suspension Bike Thread

Posted by: tashi

no lust for paying for the top end shit anymore, particularly when the mid range stuff is so damn good now.

Totally agree, that and older gen stuff is pennies to the dollar as well. My drivetrains are 10sp XT or XTR shifters because I love the shift feel of that generation, didn't enjoy 11sp shifter feel at all. Cassette is Sunrace 11-46 10sp, that's the optimal range for me on a 28t 64bcd oval ring with a non boost 2x Shimano crank to get the chain line centered roughly at the 8th largest cogof where I spend most of my time torquing up climbs. Derailleur is M8000 XT, though I keep an M6000 Deore as a spare as well. 

Brakes I run old non-wandering gen XTR levers with MT520 4 pot calipers, they have the same ceramic pistons, metal pads, and overall caliper design as everything above it but maybe not as sexy looking.

July 9, 2020, 9:50 a.m.
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Re: NSMB 2020 - Full Suspension Bike Thread

Posted by: twk

Min-maxed for everybody's enjoyment:

With a build like that I think you just nominated yourself to be the leader of the followers of drewm

June 25, 2020, 9:58 a.m.
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Re: Short travel 29'ers

The DVO Diamond can be adjusted with travel spacers as well to 140mm officially, but nothing to stop you from going down to 130 or even 120. I will say the Diamond is a better fork at 160 than 140 based on my experience, with that coil like beginning 2" of travel becoming significantly less notable at 140.

May 17, 2020, 6:56 p.m.
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Re: Amy I crazy?

90% of the time is pretty good IMO. Chasing that last 5% is probably going to be diminishing returns, because no bike would be perfect 100% of the time.

When I had a gnar Chromag, I would say I enjoyed its ride 70-80% of the time. I definitely enjoyed the climbs more than my fully. The flat-ish sections were not very interesting/fun. The downs and steeps were very fun, but I do enjoy them more on my short travel 29 now.

Having said that, if you have a nice mid-big travel main bike, a Chromag or any other progressive HT would make a great compliment.

May 15, 2020, 1:10 p.m.
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Re: SC Tallboy build for my wife

Love it, that's the one I want. I can't figure out if I need to be on a medium or large at 5'8" though.  

I screwed the sizing up for my Range and it took a lot to recover from that.

May 15, 2020, 1:07 p.m.
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Re: Sramano- Franken Drivetrain - Covidiot or no..

I've found the 10 sp XT and XTR to feel very similar, I probably couldnt tell the difference in a blind test to be honest. 10 sp XTR shifters are definitely getting harder to find (at a reasonable price) so I've started to stockpile some XT units too.

For 11 sp same idea, but the SLX 11 shifter feels significantly more plasticky and decidedly lower end

May 15, 2020, 1:03 p.m.
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Re: NSMB 2020 - Full Suspension Bike Thread

There's a L 2020 Sight frame one of our local Tricities builders is selling, ask is 2300 I believe.

May 15, 2020, 1 p.m.
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Re: NSMB 2020 - Full Suspension Bike Thread

Posted by: thaaad

Edit - How tall are you / what size are you on? Their size chart recommends me @ 5'9 on a large which is a little surprising considering I've always been on mediums in any bike I've ridden.

Large for sure. I had a 2018 Medium Range 29 and it was ok for test ride and at the park, but I found it a bit cramped after a while. I just moved up to a large this year and I'm much happier with this sizing. I'm an average 5'8"

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