Posted by: Madman
Anyone watch "Big Timber" on Netflix?
Sucks to see the logging industry pushing up the Nahmint Valley in recent years, seeing it documented on a reality TV show is quite odd in this day and age.
Is good. Can use footage to slap them with a charge of ecocide in future.
Posted by: Couch_Surfer
Are all the negative externalities of IC vehicles priced in to their sticker price?
They should be. Might slow the flippers and the flakes.
Of approx. 1.5 million new cars sold in Cda. 2020 only 54~k were EV.
Posted by: KenN
Posted by: tungsten
A lead human-interest story in the weekend Wheels section of a major Canadian newspaper is about a 2-car family’s transitioning from a hybrid to an EV as they “try to be more sustainable”. They upgrade their daily car every few years to seek “improvements in fuel efficiency, reliability and technology”. Electric vehicles (EVs) are feted by the automobile and ecojustice sectors as part of the “just transition” to a future “carbon-neutral”, happy, dignified quality of life. Another news item from the Wheels section was about the costs of home EV battery chargers costing about $2000; the chargers are plugged into electric outlets (electricity commonly supplied from fossil fuels or nuclear reactors), while the costs will be “quickly re-couped in government rebates” as public transportation subsidies continue their decline. So much for the climate emergency and for human justice, for morality and taking responsibility for mounting climate-caused human deaths and mass migration. Nothing in the newspaper about the indignation of ordinary, common people worldwide, especially among the young.
Since the 1988 Congressional definitive testimony of James Hansen and other climate scientists, there is no discourse about “Stop”: elimination of fossil fuel emissions quickly morphed into adaptation and mitigation which is now replaced by “transition”. EVs is a representative example of focusing on one small part, conveniently deleting the whole. The whole EV picture must include externalities, life cycle analysis, consideration of non-essential production, impacts of its production on basic human needs, the urgent timeline due to non-linear climate processes, regional climate and sociopolitical processes and who EVs actually serve, EV’s effects on carbon sinks, pertinent facts about human and climate history, loss and damage obligations and debt to people totally impacted and totally innocent regarding the climate emergency, alternatives, elucidating who is served in a “just transition”.....
Every sentence in that quote has factual errors and misinformation. I'm not going to waste my time debunking everything, since you've clearly made up your mind anyway.
However, anyone replacing their vehicle "every few years" is part of the problem.
KenN please, now you'are just being obtuse. Something you accuse me of. You don't really want to be me, do you?
How's about this one...
The whole EV picture must include externalities,
Seriously? You think there are no external factors to consider with the production/lifecycle/disposal of EV's?
Posted by: rnayel
"Car rental giant Hertz has placed an order for 100,000 Tesla vehicles to be delivered by the end of 2022 in the largest single purchase of EVs ever. The deal, which will push the car rental giant’s EV offerings to 20% of its global fleet, is reportedly worth $4.2 billion, according to sources cited by Bloomberg."
They so ugly they puuuuuurfect 4 a rental. Make peeps really wanna' beat the crap outta' 'em, eh?