thanks for the kind words marty. cass linked here from his recent review of the jones swb complete. i'm glad to see people are still finding it interesting and informative
sorry, i didn't weigh the bike
long term follow-up: i just bought a trace. based in no small part on your teardown insights and review. thanks again andrew
comment-section cherry on top of an already stellar review. compelling writing and voice coupled with thoughtful insights and a keen eye for detail. i really enjoyed this
in terms of ride feels, does the presence and weight of the gearbox offset the high bb?
"so nice to have suspension that works... after years!"
shots fired - but at whom?
I had a first generation chromag samurai. 6'2″ on a large frame, the 71 sta was the only thing I disliked about that bike. currently on a last-generation chromag surface with a 73 sta, no offset seat post and my saddle slammed forward, which is better - but for steep up and down riding, I dream of 75/76*…
ftr I run a Thomson layback post on my road bike, saddle slammed back on a 72* sta frame - apples and oranges
haha, sorry couldn't tell you. i never took the cranks off or looked at it that closely. i would give jeff a call and ask him yourself
thanks mateusz. and you are correct: as covered in the first look article () all jones bikes feature eccentric bb's
do what you like? just maybe leave me out of it
not saying i'm always successful, but i try to be fair
i also try to avoid ad hominem attacks and throwing people i know under the bus in order to "entertain". i read somewhere that "mean people suck" and i think it might be true
go back and read the first look article again -- it's in there. railing against proprietary bits on the Jones plus would have been missing the forest for the trees. jeff has been using proprietary front hubs for years, which I can't begrudge him for given how unique his bikes are. but he's not bloody minded about it, as illustrated by the running change recently made to the newest plus fork, which uses the 150x15mm fat front standard hub
didn't the mb-zip require a proprietary, even unique bb?
and the jones plus i reviewed has a proprietary (even unique )142mm x 15mm front hub
finally, petersen didn't murder bridgestone bikes because of his abhorence of new technologies. he made them what they were because he was willing to try, embrace and push new technologies. his mb's were the first modern, purpose built mountain bikes. everyone designing for offroad at the time was following the schwinn cruiser model, which was nice and stable while ripping fireroads but good for little else. petersen steepened up head and seat tube angles so the bikes pedalled and climbed well - he basically invented the modern xc bike, presaging "norba" geometry that would come to dominate mtb design (for better and worse) for more than a decade. true, he later refused to follow the herd and bridgestone suffered and died as a result - he'd found what for him was ~ the apotheosis of bicycle design, and decided to sit under his own vine and fig tree, and chill; and he's still there… proving you can find serenity w/o an industry-sized dick in your mouth
hi folks, the full review got posted last week, for anyone who subscribed here but missed it
apologies again for the looooong delay