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2020 Norco Optic 29 Review - Oct. 27, 2019, 9:02 a.m.

This is a really good review! Especially because I followed AJ's story to his personal bike and his thoughts on geometry before. 

There is only one little question open for me: Is the bikes weight noted above with or without tubes?

2018 Trek Farley EX 8 - Jan. 29, 2018, 1:15 a.m.

No, no. I do not want a Enduro bike with fat wheels!

The Farley is really short. It is 50mm shorter than the Bucksaw and that is not a long bike at all. The seat tubes are to tall at both of them. 

If I could dream up a Fatbike full suspension trailbike it would be along that lines. 

  • for Size XL 

  • Head angle 67

  • Seat angle 74-75

  • Seat tube max. 500mm

  • Reach 470-480 - Stack 640

  • Wheelbase around 1200-1220mm

  • 83mm BB, 177mm hub, 4" tires in the rear 27,5", rim width max. 70mm,  (option for 26"x4,5" Dunderbeists on 80mm rims)

  • Travel 100 - max. 120mm

These numbers are not too extreme. In fact they are like a Santa Cruz Hightower with a steeper seat angle.

2018 Trek Farley EX 8 - Jan. 25, 2018, 12:42 a.m.

I really appreciate your feature about the Bucksaw and the Farley here and I really like Fatbikes for trail- and snowriding in winter and sometimes even in dry summer conditions! I have ridden a Bucksaw over one season and I am on a Canyon  Dude now. Especialy rergarding the Farley I have some thoughts:

The Farley EX seems to be a nice bike on first glance. It looks good, it is available in middle Europe (Salsa not so much) and it is relatively cheap. But: while regarding to your article it may look long, in fact it is very short! A wheelbase of 1156mm on an XL is ridiculous! 

I really hope Trek stretches that geometry by at least 50mm (better 70-80) and slackens the headangle into the 67-68 degree region. A Fatbike is not a Race Enduro but a mouthfull of the long, low, slack cool aid would not hurt them either. 

Every Fatbike I know (except the Pole Taiga and Kona Wozo) have that old school geometry. This bike category looses a big part of its potential this way!

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