LOL, just got excited to order a new bike. it won't ship until April, but I was OK with that.
Order in. I just double checked and it's April 2022. FML.
Posted by: andy-eunson
It’s not analogous to a car tire. Way back when Bridgestone tires were falling apart on Fords, it was Ford that dealt with the replacement. You follow the supply chain. If a person bought a bike from a shop, the shop has to deal with it. The shop can go after the manufacturer and the manufacturer goes after their supplier of parts. Sale of Goods act. Look at it this way, if the chainring failure cause a serious injury, any lawsuit would include the shop, the bicycle manufacturer and the parts manufacturer as they would all have some culpability.
I think Tony's point is that the tire failing causing you to go into a wall doesn't mean that the damage from the wall is warranty damage. Warranty policies are written specifically to exclude this kind of liability.
Like I said, it'll suck for the shop, but they should be doing better. In store credit, labour credit, discount off next new bike, leverage relation ship with brand for a solution. There are creative ways that are less destructive to margin to find a solution that keeps the customer happy.
These days, the destruction to a brand image that can be done with honest instagram accounts of issues is immense. Even without hyperbole.
Anyone old enough to remember the "Caps wouldn't lend me a chainbreaker" thread"? I knew customers who would bring it up 5 years after the fact.
The shop is 100% right. The warranty (against defects in manufacturing) from the manufacturer of the bike does not cover damage caused by Shimano components failing - Shimano's warranty covers that defective component and is limited to just the component, not subsequent damage to you or the bike). The frame is not defective - it's damaged.
Regardless, the shop should be doing what they need to do to make you happy. It'll suck for the shop, and be a solid hit to their margins/profit, but it's the right thing to do.
Posted by: Kenny
Was too good to be true.
The upper cup doesn't fit in my head tube. Several mm too large in diameter.
I guess it might fit in the aluminum version of the frame. Kinda makes me wonder if it fits any carbon santa Cruz frames...
If it's the right cup, it should fit - diameter makes me think they sent you the wrong cup.
Posted by: D_C_
The less rear travel you have, the less steep your static (unsagged) seat angle needs to be. As rear suspension sags and bobs under pedalling, the seat angle becomes slacker.
My Chromag Rootdown has a 76 degree seat angle and I actually find the need to slide the seat back on its rails to not feel uncomfortably perched forward on all but the steepest climbs. In contrast, a 76+ degree seat angle on an enduro bike feels pretty normal since it might sag to something like 73 degrees under weight and pedalling.
This. Dynamic geo makes more of a difference than just looking at static geo numbers.
There was a comment on one of the reviews (Scalpel?) about it's bb height being higher than the Supercaliber by 11mm, so it felt 'less planted when cornering' or something. The Scalpel has 100mm of travel, and the Supercal has 60mm. So where is the BB on the Scalpel when you sit on it compared to the Supercal? And then where is it as soon as you start using travel? And then where does it end up when you're at 80% of travel Vs 80% of travel on the Supercal?
Do the math and you see that static geo comparisons can be completely meaningless. Especially from Pinkbike.
XC bikes are designed to be raced/ridden from the saddle, Vs Enduro bikes which are designed to be raced/ridden from a standing position. The weighting of the bike is completely different in those two different use/design cases. Until there's a round of the XCWC where you can make up 2 minutes a lap (over a top ten rider) on the descent, that's how XC bikes will stay.
Now DC/BCXC/marathon bikes might get more interesting - those are bikes/races that CAN make a 2 minute gap on a descent. I imagine at the end of a long day in the Cape Epic for example.
Posted by: Vikb
Where the threads are is pretty deep inside the head tube area. Not a part of my bike that gets dirty.
Yup, and not an area you'd have to worry about washing good grease out of.
Drop in (IS) bearings are one of my most disliked things about bikes currently.
Posted by: RAHrider
I'm in awe of your 50x17. That would be a grind up many of the hills in my area. I thought it must have been a typo. Good on you.
King cage stainless steel ended up being my choice. Their ti cages have been amazing for me and I like the simple styling.
Agree, that's nuts. I rode 46/16 as an all round FG ratio. OP, on my gravel bike I'm at 40 up front and most often find that i'm around 15 or 17 for general use - down towards the 11/13 when I'm hustling though. I live out towards PoCo so rides are flattish gravel.
(40x28)/15 = 74.66
(40x28)/17 = 65.88
(36x28)/16 = 63 - unless you're into big climbs or rolling along slowly, IMO this is too low.
(36x28)/15 = 67.2 < more reasonable, but probably still too low for where I live as an only gear, I find I'm regularly bumping off the limits of 40x11. Yes, if I span at 110rpm i wouldn't be, but I don't.
Perhaps take your average speed and work backwards from there if you're still on the fence. What gearing and RPM will it take to be able to do your average speed comfortably.
Edit - i see you decided already. Good luck and have fun!
Orangesportsupply is the distro for Sapim, and they are local to NV. Any bike shop should be able to get you sorted next day if they want your business.
Posted by: andy-eunson
He’s a bit much at times but he makes you think. I wonder if some of the threaded bb bikes I’ve had where I’ve needed a new bb annually was just out of spec? I had a Kona Hei Hei years ago where the brake studs were too low and I couldn’t really set the brake pads correctly. Built by Sandvik to the wrong spec. I had to buy rims that sloped in to the tire to get the pads to track ok. The replacement was marginally better. I learned later from a friend at Norco about the wrong brake stud spec. So you wonder about manufacturers which are often contractors eliminating steps to make better profits.
Every 'standard' has a tolerance. QC is only as good as the effort put into it.
Posted by: D_C_
Posted by: thaaad
I don't use strava plainly because I am way too competitive and I will either end up hurting myself or hating myself.
Once you accept how inaccurate it is, the race aspect of Strava goes out the window.
Yeah, but now I can't check my previous performance. I have dozens of rides on some trails. And it's MY performance that I'm most interested in. But I don't care about heart rate monitors or power meter hook ups or training days.
Posted by: Brocklanders
How about this....On a ride with friends last week there is a hike a bike section so during this time we have a good chat. For some reason we started talking about suspension on old dirt bikes that transitioned to Evil kenivel's jump over Ceasars palace fountain in Vegas and how the suspension he had couldn't handle the jump although he stuck it. Super random convo, talked about the toys form the 70/80's etc.
Then get home, scrolling thru instagram an ad for a guy selling Evil Kenivel toys pops up in my feed. I hadn't googled him whatsoever in the last 10 years. So pretty convinced my phone is listening to my convos.
Change my mind.
No. Your cellphone IS listening to you.
In a small market it's all about distro - we might as well be on an island up here. The two big dogs carry SRAM/RS, and if you're not being sold by them, your product will always be less common.
You might as well ask about Manitou, or even Marzocchi.