With that reasoning, why use beacons? I've been out with some old timers that don't use them. The only reason I will not buy one is they are way too expensive.
Frustrating to see lots of comments like this on FB.
Maybe don't put yourself on a slope that's going to pop. I'd like to see the sales data for airbags after this. I bet theirs a sales spike. Knowledge is more important then the tech of an airbag.
How about both? education, knowledge, equipment, etc.. are just tools, not guarantees. Many pro guides get caught as well.
No its not fun, rather a good example of what can happen when youre not prepared or educated in backcountry travel.
The local forecasts warned of windloading and even in the video an educated backcountry user can recognise that the snow he was on was a windload formation. It was an accident waiting to happen with him being on that slope…his video should be used as an educational tool as to what happens when you are oblivious to all the warning signs.
sun exposed as well
how about one of these?
I used to think it was an other gimmick just to make you spend more money but every time I see these videos it makes me think that's they are actually pretty good. I'm converted.
so theres a couple of "backcountry skiiers" lost on seymour now
on top of first pump for fuck sakes…..the equivalent of being lost in the ladies underwear aisle at walmart.
you can see the city and the ski hill from there…the ski hill is a 2 minute ski from there as well….unfuckingbelievable.
….never mind that they have cell service and could easily google map their dumb asses to the marked summer trail
I bet they got lost because of poor visibility and not knowing the area very well. I get lost in malls all the time and end up in Victoria secret for some reason.
Yesturday was up early on the grouse blue gondola and was talking to a patrol. We saw a few hikers on the grind at 6:30am. He was telling me that he sees them regularly in shorts, not checking avy reports etc. Thursday, inbounds, I was craking 1 foot deep snow slabs. Not sure what you can do for those people. Last year when a snowboarder died on cypress, he past two warning signs that he was heading towards dangerous and deadly cliff and to turn around. Never did and was found in a creek below. Some people you just cant help… Accidents can happen to anyone but not being prepared is an other story. Be smart, check the short and long term weather, bring the proper gear, make a plan and know when to turn back (that's the hardest part, I've been guilty of that). It's not rocket science.
The reason time commitment is a big thing is trust. You can be perfectly experienced but if you dont fit with the team it wont work. Again you can do other things, just call them. I do agree it should be part of FD on the shore and get provincial money to support them. Tourism brings in lots of $$$
I can see how availability can be a problem but I would also expect that their pool of volunteers would be way more than the 20 that are active now…so 100% coverage of searches is probably not realistic.
Im going to call and check. Looking for a way to contribute to the community here.
When I say any type of outdoor experience, I mean serious experience, not just the average joe… but you dont need to have gone on Denali either. The biggest challenge is time commitment for most people that can/would like to help. btw you can do other things for the nsr, it's not just rescue.
what is "some" ?
The north shore is "the mountains" where it can snow any time of year, people get lost up there in summer and have a very uncomfortable time, but now its fucking cold, there is 140cms in the last week at cypress on a huge base, all in steep and complex terrain so travel in the BC would be tough for an experianced out door person let alone someone without good skills … you need actual BC skiers and climbers
I've seen Voly SAR who simpley lacked the skills or conditioning to get up a mountain
edit: In the national parks Banff/Jasper they have dedicated rangers and staff, fit people with training up the yingyang to deal with SAR and given the SAR traffic on the NS I think the area needs a dedicated SAR … as opposed to charging money or leaving them out there till spring
Id volunteer but Im more likely to aggravate the problem and require rescue myself than help!
I checked out the volunteering process and it seems, and it makes perfect sense, you should have experience mountaineering!
Not really needed, any type of experience is good. You do need some sort of outdoor experience. The biggest and hardest thing is the time commitment. NSR volunteers give a lot if not all of their spare time.
just found this article dated 2005. those guys are clever…