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But could equally go the opposite way, similar to car purchase in the UK, namely a PCP (90% of cars in UK) , the bike bought entirely on finance and dropped back at end of period for next generation of E bike. 

Headline car prices have increased dramatically in the UK, as few pay cash outright, the only parameter that people worry about is the monthly repayment. The monthly repayment is usually based on the depreciation of the vehicle, which can be bought outright at the end of the contract  ( balloon payment) most don’t have the cash so just stay on the conveyer belt!!  Not sure if this contract hire occurs in other countries, but certainly in the UK, it allows folk to drive a big expensive car on a modest income, that is until it ultimately comes to the end of the conveyer belt, when sometimes the ballon payments are very considerable.

I think the Orange Frames are a lot lighter than most think they are.

And we have now bigger tooth cassettes to haul these heavier bikes uphill, with  the inherent gear ratios being overall lower, hence less speed up the hill !!

There is an interesting project doing the rounds of a guy on a Pivot 29 er DH made “enduro “ friendly, single crown, dropper etc, which bar the steeper seat angle on the Geometron, ends up probably not too dissimilar. Be an interesting comparison coming from the two starting points, DH frame v Enduro Frame.

Seb

How tall are you?

Thanks

And one wonders why Orange Single pivot bikes have such a following in the equally wet UK!! They may not deliver the level of suspension subtlety as a multi pivot, but I do wonder how much difference there is in the dirt, particularly when to function optimally multipivots need all their bearings running as smoothly as possible ( and the linkages all in the same plane of tolerance.)

Lost bottle on first ride!!

Subsequently new one (not cheap with locking interface ) seems so far to have stayed attached to bike.

Maybe comfort on a steep seat tube angled bike is related to length of femur as a proportion of total leg length? A short femur length being happier on a steeper STA.

If you have a more balanced bike with a longer chainstay, then surely by default the rider is placed more in the centre of the bike, therefore the ass to rear tyre should not occur that often even with a 29 er. I'm 5'10 and rarely if at all catch the rear tyre, the chain stay lengths on my bikes range from 435, 443 and 455 (front centres within 2 mm of each other @ 775) All have around 460 reach. UK riding is very often at lowish speeds on hand cut narrow tracks, steep and twisty. The best balanced is the 443 RC bike 29er 130/120 which I sized down as a wanted agility v stability.

Is the Csu / lowers interface the wrong way round? Looks odd on the pic of you with your foot on the rear wheel .

Somewhat like when Dave Turner swapped out the hallowed  “fully active” chain stay Horst link for a seatstay link, and no one could tell the difference, no matter how hard they tried!! Probably indicates that the variables ( that are assumed on the CAD ) are somewhat different when the bike is ridden in the dirt.