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I'm bringing my bike - an actual pedal powered bike.

I'm bringing my ebike - Not a pedal powered bike. 

Pretty easy. If you told me you're bring your bike and you showed up on the ebike I'd be riding on my own.

I run cushcore and the SRAM folk reckoned you didn't need them with these wheels due to the design. I'd love to take their word on that, but it's a big ask when you're paying so much for the rims.

Ah, gotcha. Can't say too many of the trails I ride have corners like that on, so it's a bit of a muchness for me personally.

I gave these a go the same weekend, took them for a rip down Crazy Train and Hey Bud. I didn't notice the rear losing traction before the front, but I only weigh 140lbs. They felt nimble and tracked better than my current E13 TRS wheels. Comfy for sure. Hard for me to give any insight into how much better or worse they are than any other carbon wheels though I've not ridden any other.

Especially when his 'bike' looks like this. In what world is that a bicycle. I'd be surprised if anyone could pedal that any distance at all - if the pedals even do anything.

If they were banned everywhere that's actually any fun to ride then people would stop buying them and companies would stop making them. It's not going to happen though.

https://www.trailforks.com/report/678553/

Anyone know the rationale behind this work? Jaws was a super steep but rarely ridden trail, unsustainable? Maybe for after an EWS but for the traffic it usually gets? How 'blue' is the reroute? Seems a crazy decision to reroute a double black section with bench cut blue level trail.... I'm all for maintenance, but if the OG line doesn't exist anymore, I'll be a little sad.

Posted by: oldmanbuilder

i foresee more new trails being built iwith heinous hike a bikes.  that's the direction i would go in, anyways.

I already know of one trail built like this with ebikes in mind.

Of course, I'm still not seeing any real positive leadership or advocacy from ebike sellers or product reps about responsible integration. I asked some personally reasonable questions several times about directional riding and solving insurance issues for land access but have only heard more marketing about getting rad and you have to ride one and so forth.

Indeed. I spoke to a Giant rep at Crankworx last year and he was quite happy to hand off education about rules and responsible access to the bike shops that would be selling these things. The local bike shop has responsibility, but it's the manufacturers who are heavily pushing ebikes and should bare a huge amount of the burden when it comes to the issues they raise, avoiding conflict and responsible access.

I might be wrong, but I think they have to run the open chair lifts slower for sightseers due to an unfortunate accident on one of the chairs a few years ago. Bikers are uploading only and need a given level of physical fitness to ride the park so they don't need to slow the chair down if it's bike only.

And as usual, there's no rebuttal. /thread.

Posted by: FLATCH

Posted by: BeesIntheTrap

That's such a shit attitude. If someone goes and spends their time and effort building a trail and says no ebikes or dont ride in the rain or whatever, we as riders should respect that.

So no unicycles either right?

Yawn.... 

Maybe try answering why it's not a selfish "me, me, me" attitude?

That's such a shit attitude. If someone goes and spends their time and effort building a trail and says no ebikes or dont ride in the rain or whatever, we as riders should respect that.

There are trails in whistler that get fucked at the start of year when thier wet despite signage and trail forks saying keep off while we maintain it and it drys out. 

Its a selfish attitude and not one I want to see more of the bike community. If ebikers are going to have the same attitude then any goodwill they might have currently is going to go out the window very quickly.

Posted by: syncro

same can be said for how things are now or if ebikes are banned. if there is no level of enforcement then people will do what they want to anyways. for example, how many people ride the darkside even though it's off limits? even when the park rangers are monitoring things there are still people taking their chances. 

I see parallels with other situations where ease of access is a huge determining factor in how often an event occurs. If things are easy and convenient they'll happen more often. There will always be people who don't respect the rules for their own personal enjoyment or advantage, doesn't matter if it's riding closed or off limit trails, doping etc. The easier it is to do, the more it'll happen. I bet that Lord of the Squirrels will see many more ebikes on it this summer compared with last, even though it's now more widely known that it's not allowed, simply due to there being easier access to ebikes and more people owning them.