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Excited to try new XT myself but I’m not buying a new rear hub/wheel. I really hope Shimano opens up the Microspline license soon. If they don’t, retail sales of this stuff will suffer for sure.

OneUp’s are convex though, so isn’t the “raised section” even more pronounced? I tried them and they were alright, but I prefer a concave pedal for sure.

Can’t wait to try this with new XTR. Don’t want to get a new rear hub to work with Microspline so this may be the ticket!

Doesn’t seem too newsworthy. Sure it’s better than before, but with Santa Cruz, e*thirteen, and We Are One offering lifetime warranty on their carbon wheels this seems to fall a bit short.

Weird. I've had the exact opposite experience (as have my riding buddies). The TRSr hook up great in the wet and have been fantastic on all the trails I ride in Squamish and Pemby. They roll a little slow for sure but  they grip better than anything else I've tried, including Minions. I run the plus compound in the rear for better wear, and the sidewalls have been rock solid. Your rock drop story sounds like it had other elements at play maybe. Seems hard to believe that it was only the tire that cause a crazy crash like that.

Fair point. If you really want to test the long term durability, the E13 rims also come with lifetime warranty if you want to use the hub of our choice.

Nice shootout review. I've been running the TRSr SL's on my Range all year as well with no issues. I didn't have any of the front hub issues you mentioned and I'm on a Fox 36 as well...I read E13 carbon warranties are now lifetime which is an added bonus for sure. I noticed the decals getting a bit worn after a year too, but ordered a set of replacement decals from the e13 website to freshen up the look.

Edit- looks like you did mention lifetime warranty but it's listed under the Mavic wheels.....

Great value but that's a crazy heavy cassette. That adds over a half pound to the rear of the bike compared to X01 or wide range 11 speed like TRS. I thought the XT cassette was heavy!

Nice review. I’m a huge fan of these tires, especially their grip in the wet. I didn’t notice as much of a difference between the original tires and the new tires as AJ did, but now that I read this review the rears might be a bit easier to break loose (which can be a positive depending on your riding style). I guess I dont lean my bike over enough to really notice. One thing I do appreciate about the new tires is the stiffer casing, so I can run a bit less psi. Two thumbs up!

But that's $90 for 10-42. Not really the same comparison...If you want more range than Eagle and lighter weight the e13 is a great option. They can be had for $225 USD at a lot of online dealers as well...I'm 14 months in and haven't needed to replace my alu cogs yet either. Depends on how much you ride though.

Posted by: Timer

How does it roll? Heard amazing things about the e13 grip and horror stories about their ability to suck all the power out of your legs on the climbs.

I have the TRS+ in the rear (slightly harder) and TRSr in the front and they roll just fine. Maybe a tad slower than the Minions I was on before but really not noticeable. I don’t understand the complaints about them being super slow rolling. The grip is amazing though. Best I’ve tried, and as Hepcat said they are my new faves. My buddy runs TRSr in the front and rear for more grip and has no rolling complaints either. 

If you want fast rolling I’ve seen they do an aggressive SS tire that works and grips much better than a Minion SS according to internet folk. Might be a good rear tire for the dry.

I’m using the E13 TRSr SL guide. Super light and minimal and keeps chain noise down. Flips up for easy chain maintenance too. MEC has them in stock. $63 CAD.

https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5064-352/TRS-Race-SL-Carbon-Chainguide-%28ISCG05%29

They have a top guide with bash too (TRS+) that come with different size bash guards depending on your needs.

Aren't those the stop gap non branded cranks? Heard those are actually new XT. Actual XTR cranks are still delayed from what I hear.

Posted by: trumpstinyhands

Ah yes! With all this talk of freehub swapping I missed that the OP had an XD driver already. Personally I'd go with a GX Eagle 'box' and sell the cranks to offset some of the cost. The range is more than fine (I don't think I've ever used more than 9 gears on mine to be honest) and I've never ridden a drivetrain with some sort of conversion kit or after market cassette that works as well as a kit designed to work together from the factory.

If he's coming from XX1 11 speed GX Eagle will be heeeeavvy. The E13 cassette is the easiest/lightest solution for his situation by far and shifts really well. I only know one guy in our group running GX Eagle and he's always having to tweak his shifting to get it to run smoothly. He's not terribly impressed...XX1 and X01 Eagle are less problematic from what I hear.

Posted by: Ddean

Reality is that unless I keep the wicked carbon wheels on it and put something else on when I sell it, Im not likely to wear out another cassette, so conversion from XD probably does not make sense at this point.

Im hunting for e*13 deal. Even ignoring that 9t, the 46 would be great and with an ability to replace the big cogs, awesome. That looks like the ticket, but want a deal given theyre $400+

The TRS+ 9-46 cassettes are $224 on Jenson or Backcountry. Thats about $300 in Canuck bucks...

I have the E13 TRS+ 9-46 on 2 bikes and my buddies ride them as well. Nothing but good things to say. They're light (lighter than XX1 or X01 Eagle cassettes), have a hair more range than Eagle, and shifting has been great. I use mine with XT buy my buddies use theirs with SRAM. I actually use the 9T cog more than I thought (in the Bike Park when I ride it) because I paired mine with a 28T front ring (I know I'm lazy).

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Posted by: heathen

715g way too heavy.

100g more than say an XT is "way too heavy"?

Quarter pound is a quarter pound....

If you stick with alloy XT's are hard to beat. $99 on Jenson right now and weigh basically the same as Turbine that are $70 more. Get a nice OneUp ring and call it done...

Broke 2 sets of Next SL's (pedal insert) within about 3 months of riding each set. RF warrantied them but sold my last set to try something new. Tried the new E13 TRSr cranks and they have been going strong all year on the Shore, Squamish, Pemby and a few Whistler park days. So far so good. My buddy rides Hope and likes those as well...

610g is pretty portly. You can get full DH rated rims from Race Face (ARC HD) or E13 (LG1+) for lighter than that...