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I installed the Debonair C1 "upgrade" sealhead/footnut on my 2020 Lyrik Ultimate, it now supportive in the initial stroke. NSMB did a review on it recently, and was a factor in me getting one. Totally happy with my Lyrik now!

Here's the link to the article- https://nsmb.com/articles/riding-and-installing-new-rockshox-debonair-spring/

I have the Sight A1 XL, which comes with a 200mm dropper. I'm 6'2" and 5mm is exposed from being slammed. Also the post is 34.9mm diameter, so it feels very solid.

https://nsmb.com/tag/ingrid-doerr/

The 'Ride Aligned' from Norco's website is with the B1 debonair.

I biked in the early 2000's and everybody wore full-face, elbow and knee pads. Didn't ride from 2006-2018 and I was surprised to see the level of protection drop. 

I have the Bell Super DH helmet, love the helmet, super comfortable. I attach the chinguard to my hip pack on the ride up, 10 seconds to attach to my helmet for the way down. Dental work is expensive! Would you rather spend $400 on a full face vs missing teeth, fracture orbital bone, laceration or having your jaw wire shut?

I'm too old to seem cool!😁

Posted by: craw

Remember to consider ESTA when you're looking at those huge-seeming reach numbers. The steeper seat angle will reduce effective top tube so sometimes those big reach numbers don't always mean a bigger bike, just a shift of the rider forward on the bike.

Very true!

I had the Range XL and the reach was 480mm, the new Sight XL has a reach of 515mm. When sitting on the bikes they felt the same. I even had to slide the seat back for more room on the Sight(I have a long torso proportional). I'm 6'1" for a reference.

I'm aware of that, I should've asked if you wanted to increase your riding height what would be the best option? 170mm B1 airshaft or 160mm C1 airshaft performance wise?

Posted by: heathen

If a B1 air shaft causes you to loose about 10mm of travel should you bump up to the next travel? IE if you have a 160mm Lyrik with a C1 air shaft should you but a 170mm B1 air shaft?

I have a Norco Sight and with the "Ride Aligned" recommendations I'm running 91 psi in my fork with 2 tokens. My sag is at 25%, but after riding for a couple minutes if I get off my bike it's at the 10% sag marker with no weight. After a ride I always have about 20mm of travel left. 

I'm wondering the same thing as you. 

What better, 170mm B1 airshaft or 160mm C1 airshaft performance wise?

If you're thinking about selling this is the time to do it! I recently sold a bike and had the same experience as Kevin. Due to Covid there's a shortage of bikes. It's a seller's market.

Posted by: ehfour

Of a side note, none of the factory Norco boys run more than 1 token

https://www.pinkbike.com/news/bike-check-comparing-norco-factory-racings-sight-enduro-setups.html

I see that's with the 170mm fork, is that what you have? I have the 160mm travel.

So..... it's not better?

Has anyone installed the C1 airshaft or sealhead/footnut in their RS Lyrik? I think Cam reviewed back when they first came out in April for a couple rides. Any longer term reviews? I know the initial support is better, but how does affect the rest of the stroke?

Posted by: DemonMike

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Posted by: heathen

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I had a quick look at the leverage curve charts. The Range is actually quite progressive and should work well with a coil.  The Patrol is less so, around the same ball park as the Stump evo.

Although leverage curve is very important,  the shock's compression tunes now also add another variable.  

So at the end you need to look at the overall sum of the parts and how they all play together. 

I trust Transition have gone coil because of a defined performance benefit, they as a company are pretty good with not following the trends generally speaking.  I mean at the end of the day they gave us modern slack geo with decreased offset forks which they pretty much cobbled together in their garage to R&D

The new Norco Sights look like perfect candidates for a coil swap. The new Transition Scout too

I read that the Norco Sights need a custom tune due to the high leverage rate, is this true? Why would the Sight be a good candidate for a coil?

FYI Norco team uses a coil sprung Sight. Check the other site . Some info there.

That's where I read in the comment section that they have custom tune coil shock because of the leverage rate,