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Posted by: Chris_Mitchell

About to purchase a Chromag Primer. I was sad to notice the press fit BB - but realized I don't really care as long as it is quiet! (A noisy bike drives me mental). Anyone have any experience/ issues with this on a Primer? Also, I'm a 5'11'' rider going for a size M/L, but was curious if I should size up. Any insights or advice would be appreciated!

The BB every Rootdown I have seen recently on Pinkbike has this as the BB from Wheels Manufacturing. Not a true press fit I don't think. 

https://wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets/bb86-92/bb86-92-outboard-abec-3-bb-for-24mm-shimano-cranks-black.html

Posted by: Vikb

I don't use a chain guide, but I do have a taco bash on all my bikes and it gets used every ride by slamming into rocks.

Chromag is discounting the few remaining 2019 Rootdowns they have so who knows maybe the 2020 model will come with a threaded BB?

Vik, not a threaded BB but they went with this style of BB.

https://wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets/bb86-92/bb86-92-outboard-abec-3-bb-for-24mm-shimano-cranks-black.html

Posted by: Mic

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Posted by: Mic

The wideangle looks beautiful. The doctohawk too slack for my terrain. And an annual trip to big mountains does not justify such a bike. Am still riding my 26" stylus, have I mentioned that? Any reason for getting a new one, 'cept more fun?  

Plan is to get a new HT in 2021...either a 27.5 or a 29. Stylus (again) or a Stanton Switch9er. Cannot really decide.

Mic, Wideangle is great. It is the made in Taiwan version of the Samurai made in Squamish and  after a year can't tell the difference between the Samurai and the Wideangle. Supposedly you can run it with 26" wheels if your a retro grouch but haven't yet myself. Can run it mini plus size which I did over the winter. My Wideangle is a prototype and takes a max 27.5x2.6 in the rear though. Don't know if the newer versions go bigger in 27.5. Wonder if you can get a 26+ to work? And you ask if your old Stylus is still fun? Well according to endless stalking over 5 years of Pinkbike buy and sell 2007 to say 2009/10 Stylus frames or bikes are rare. Seen exactly 4 in 5 years. All the Stylus one's I keep seeing used are in the last 5 years.

Thanks for the info. Guess I ride my 26" Stylus into the ground or until I have a hard time finding spare tires. Oh my....

At times I would love to ride a longer bike that is a bit more stable at speed. The 26" Stylus does ride like a big BMX bike, which i like...but....you know. 

Tungsten.....alu does feel like cast iron. Steel is a bit more subtle. There is in my opinion a very real difference between the two materials and how they ride. 

But....compared to a fully a hardtail is a different ride altogether. Especially on techgnar (only know the tastes of Finale Ligure and the Alps).

Okay Mic, there is a little known detail about the Chromags from 2007. My 2007 Samurai was built with enough clearance to fit big as 26' tires. Extra benefit? Found you could run 27.5 wheels mounting a roughly 27.5 by say 2.2-2.3  tire.  Not saying it can't be done with a Stylus from 2007 though I think I recall seeing it done somewhere. Can't recall. So if you have access to a qr rear in 27.5  put it in and see what happens.

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Posted by: Mic

And I honestly am fed up with streaming. I miss the good old days of renting a film or even buy one...unpacking....celebrating the movie. Not just clicking an icon and binge watchibg whatever whenever.

My favorite parts of watching a movie were the trip to the rental store and the hour spent picking out a movie.

And then returning it a week late.  $25.00 to watch Howard the Duck.

But...others were worth it. Definitely.

Are you saying you didn't love Howard the Duck?

well, sorr..but I have never seen Howard the Duck.....I was thinking along the lines of certain actresses. 

By the way, is Gooch still alive?

Someone bring the Gooch Signal out of deep storage.

Posted by: Mic

The wideangle looks beautiful. The doctohawk too slack for my terrain. And an annual trip to big mountains does not justify such a bike. Am still riding my 26" stylus, have I mentioned that? Any reason for getting a new one, 'cept more fun?  

Plan is to get a new HT in 2021...either a 27.5 or a 29. Stylus (again) or a Stanton Switch9er. Cannot really decide.

Mic, Wideangle is great. It is the made in Taiwan version of the Samurai made in Squamish and  after a year can't tell the difference between the Samurai and the Wideangle. Supposedly you can run it with 26" wheels if your a retro grouch but haven't yet myself. Can run it mini plus size which I did over the winter. My Wideangle is a prototype and takes a max 27.5x2.6 in the rear though. Don't know if the newer versions go bigger in 27.5. Wonder if you can get a 26+ to work? And you ask if your old Stylus is still fun? Well according to endless stalking over 5 years of Pinkbike buy and sell 2007 to say 2009/10 Stylus frames or bikes are rare. Seen exactly 4 in 5 years. All the Stylus one's I keep seeing used are in the last 5 years.

Posted by: ken-leggatt

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Posted by: ken-leggatt

Not the best picture, but this is the original Wideangle.  Nothing but fun on this.

Hmm...that is? Made here or overseas?

The Wideangle of all vintages is a Taiwan made frame.

Thought so.  I have the predecessor to that in the work shop right now.

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Posted by: Vikb

Question for folks on Chromags...I've been looking at a Rootdown and I can get past the PF BB, but my one concern is that I can't figure out a way to mount a taco bash guard on the frame since there are no ISCG tabs and no threaded BB which allows you to mount a ISCG adapter. Our trails are really rocky so I have a taco bash on all my bikes. My cranks are all the splined variety so no crank mounted bashguards either.

Any solutions I am missing other than buy non-splined crank and mount a chainring style bash guard to it?

My Wideangle has a BSA BB but no ISCG05 tabs. I have no idea when Chromag stopped putting tabs on their Taiwanese frames but it was a stupid cost savings measure if you ask me. Good news they are steel frames so you can just get a local frame builder to slap some on.

Side note, anyone here have a connection to Chromag they should ask then to fix this error and start specing with tabs again.

Still mount them to the Stylus. Interestingly my 2007 Samurai doesn't have the ISCG tabs while the 2007 Stylus had them.

Posted by: Vikb

Question for folks on Chromags...I've been looking at a Rootdown and I can get past the PF BB, but my one concern is that I can't figure out a way to mount a taco bash guard on the frame since there are no ISCG tabs and no threaded BB which allows you to mount a ISCG adapter. Our trails are really rocky so I have a taco bash on all my bikes. My cranks are all the splined variety so no crank mounted bashguards either.

Any solutions I am missing other than buy non-splined crank and mount a chainring style bash guard to it?

Had a 2007 Samurai that didn't have the ISCG tabs with threaded BB. So would have to use the adaptor. Downside as I discovered with a Taco bash and the ISCG adaptor plate  The thing moves around when you clip rocks and such. Better off with a proper crank mounted bash guard and either a narrow wide ring or an upper guide mounted using the adaptor.

Posted by: ken-leggatt

Not the best picture, but this is the original Wideangle.  Nothing but fun on this.

Hmm...that is? Made here or overseas?

Posted by: Fast-Orange

They've been doing  great job unfortunately our government is in no way prepared to accomplish anything like it.

At about 4pm Thursday Ontario government announced all public funded schools are closed an extra 2 weeks after Spring Break next week.  Understandable as hearing that locals are still jumping on planes to take the family to Disney Land or fly to Jamaica as one MTB club member I just heard is.  Makes sense as some seem to be stupid.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6668240/coronavirus-ontario-schools-closed/

Meanwhile found out a former courier friend to hoping see her Nana one last time is driving from Comox to Ottawa. Because the facility her Nana said in a email that if you fly they won't let you in.