I was on a new e-bike for a couple of weeks as I was waiting for my bike. Some of my friends have them (sponsors, testing, etc) and all of us prefer the normal bikes. What irks me with the bike industry is they are marketing these things to people to get them into the sport and not seeing the ramifications of this.
e-bikers won't form any advocacy group unless they get banned. Even then, how you going to enforce?
Until batteries get way better, I can't see people chipping their ebikes. Even in Trail mode, battery power doesn't last too long. In Boost mode, it would be really hard to navigate up some trails.
It really boils down to the rider responsibility.
Posted by: cyclotoine
pretty much agree with everything craw says. and while I am riding 75+ degree ST angle bike now, my next bike will be a Pole, because I want it steeper. My partner really appreciated the climbing benefits when she went from a 73 degree ST trail bike to a 75 and she is a hair under 5'8". So maybe 75-76 is good for average sized riders and it needs to be adjusted from there.
I think Forbidden is a great example of where the industry is going. Riders want more choice and we will increasingly see these small brands eat away at the custom and big brand market because they will offer bikes that have semi-custom geometry off the shelf with different seat tube angles and rear centers in each size. It means some bikes will get even more expensive, but we have seen that people are willing to pay for it. I would take a size-specific geometry alloy bike (Pole just happens to be making what I think will work best for me at 192cm) with a nice GX build over a carbon superbike any day (and then put really nice carbon wheels on it). That is what is going to be the best performance to cost ratio for me.
So I think we're going to see more of what Forbidden is going in terms of geometry offerings.
I also think tire damping is a thing and we will see more tire companies launching their ideas for it in the next few years. I think there is likely a lighter way to incorporate damping into the tire and that will be the way it goes, but we'll see.
I also think we reached peak hardtail popularity and it will not begin declining in popularity but always maintain a low-level market share.
Alloy wheels give a better more compliant ride. Lots of hype on carbon and I think we will less of it in the future.
You know that on DNV managed land, e-bikes are not allowed and are considered the same as motorbikes..... Rocky Mountain Bikes was upset that during a demo last fall, they couldn't have ebikes. I think most people are unaware....
I think Instagram is worse than ebikes and strava....
Posted by: blackfly
Posted by: LoamtoHome
Metro just cares about the watershed, and not the trails. The liability angle is hogwash as parties are covered by the BC Liabilities Act.
I wouldn't go to court on that assumption. If you are right, then explain why ALL man made features on Neds, as aforementioned even the smallest ones, were removed. Natural features carry no implied liability since there is no way to show negligence, incompetence of construction or design etc...One thing to remember about liability: it assumes a REASONABLY likely risk of injury, so on popular trails, Seventh say, if a feature is ridden ad infinitum and only one person is hurt, you could reasonably argue that it is indeed an accident, not from any other factor. Have many accidents on a hard trail that is stunt laden such a defence would not hold up. Lastly, I don't think DWV was going to use the Liabilities Act as a pillow in 1999 when all features were axed on Cypress due to one incident, albeit serious. Since the injured party had a father that was a lawyer.....action/reaction. In fact, the biggest reason for the "new flow" mantra is exactly litigious. Very little reasonable risk is involved with smooth, flow trails (Upper Dales, Expresso) although encouraging high speeds as a factor would be an interesting angle.
I wonder how it all works with surfing?
the wood work on Neds got taken down because it was old and rotten. Stunts are still up on Salvation, Corkscrew, Boogieman, etc.
Posted by: blackfly
Brocklanders: the perfect place you allude to is Princess Park. Easy parking, easy access, gentle grades (if any, really). How do I know? Born and raised next to it 30 years, and when I was 8 it was my introduction to riding in the woods. It is a little groomed now relative to back then, and the power line trail was more open, but there you are. And as you progress there are some grades/downhill/tech (in fact, in the first NSX video some of the footage is actually shot in Princess Park). Check it out. I hear Monica goes there sometimes to yell at dog owners taking Rover out for a walk.
Princess Park got paved.... gravel mess now. Wander how much that cost.